Thread regarding Cisco Systems Inc. layoffs

What massively growing markets are naturally adjacent to speeds and feeds [an alias for Cisco for the clueless] that don't require any development skills?

Your question has been answered with nothing. The answer is clearly nothing.

tl;dr

What could better describe the "Cisco UK Current State" or Cisco anywhere else in the world?

@4xqi+1s1U3Yha tl;dr

...you need to be in the 21st century. Infiniband is what is now industry standard.

Since no one has grasped this yet, I'll try again. InfiniBand has been a standard managed by a standards body for 25 years, which puts its start in the 20th century, and the technologies it was built on, Future I/O and Next Generation I/O go back further. Cisco is a member of that standards body and and made InfiniBand products 20 years ago. If it's the future of AI beyond NVIDIA others will license the standard.

How is Cisco going to generate revenue with NVIDIA with routers and switches?

"With" NVIDIA? NVIDIA makes Ethernet switches for AI workloads making them a competitor to Cisco.

Almost no one here whining about AI seems to understand it's an abstraction of a set of technologies, not a product that solves an actual business problem. AI is being applied at many levels by many companies and the kinds of features built with AI that Cisco's customers may benefit from may not require NVIDIA's largest chips at $30,000-$40,000 a piece. It's like saying "Python is the most popular programming language. We need to rewrite IOS, IOS-XR, IOS-XE and NX-OS in Python or we'll fall too far behind the market and die."

This brings us back to the start which lead to the first monkey who tried to hide their inability to read by turning this into a discussion of InfiniBand: "What massively growing markets are naturally adjacent to speeds and feeds [an alias for Cisco for the clueless] that don't require any development skills?"

@2gjr+1s1U3Yha tl;dr. Holy word diarrhoea . Take a pill or something.

When you talk about NVIDIA and AI, you need to be in the 21st century. Infiniband is what is now industry standard. Ethernet and its future in AI are all on a crystal ball. Investment in AI infrastructure has gone up for sure but investment in general AI application implementation have already started to dip since the peak in 2021.

Anyway, Cisco never had a play in AI and they still don’t. It’s all PowerPoint smoke & mirrors, marketing hubris and lies from LC and SE Directors. They could have had a play if UCS would still be around ( it’s dying as is Nexus) - without that, a partnership with NVIDIA is meaningless. Dell and HPE are ahead in those terms riding on NVIDIA because they both have compute. How is Cisco going to generate revenue with NVIDIA with routers and switches? How many customers are they going to find who are willing to pay for whatever AI gimmick they hope to sell ? On what use case? Ridiculous.

@2pfx+1s1U3Yha As someone said: typical Cisco m0r0n. Can't even Google

https://www.nvidia.com/en-gb/networking/products/infiniband/

Typical out-of-touch, antiquated, know-it-all Cisco m0r0n...

Yes! You are!

"Speeds and feeds" was a reference to Cisco.

Someone with the reading comprehension of a fifth grader would have grasped the previous sentence saying "NVIDIA is built on massively parallel processing which AI is just one of many areas where they [NVIDIA] can compete" acknowledging NVIDIA does have "massively growing markets [which] are naturally adjacent."

...that’s why NVIDIA bought Infiniband.

I see nothing showing the InfiniBand Trade Association (IBTA) is owned by NVIDIA. They did by Mellanox. Cisco had InfiniBand switches a quarter century ago but they aren't even on the IBTA Steering Committee today.

“ What massively growing markets are naturally adjacent to speeds and feeds that don't require any development skills? Be specific (seriously, I've been asking this for years and never got a meaningful reply - "cloud and AI" are just laughably wrong.)”

Typical out-of-touch, antiquated, know-it-all Cisco m0r0n with no knowhow about anything but loves to show off . Your last comment is laughably wrong about AI. Anyone who knows the basics of workload sharing over GPUs know that. That’s what Slurm type technology is built upon and that’s why NVIDIA bought Infiniband. And about not requiring development skills, have you ever even heard of CUDA?!

This culture of gaslighting, contempt & bullying and insulting employees' intelligence needs to end and end with a BANG before a company can get their mojo back. Learn from NVIDIA!

NVIDIA is built on massively parallel processing which AI is just one of many areas where they can compete. What massively growing markets are naturally adjacent to speeds and feeds that don't require any development skills? Be specific (seriously, I've been asking this for years and never got a meaningful reply - "cloud and AI" are just laughably wrong.)

Sad to see this. I moved away from that toxic ghetto culture in the UKI back in 2022. This is the problem when a tech company starts to become a "sales & marketing" company. They ignore, and in reality antagonise dedicated technical mindsets in preferance to those peddling BS, hubris and lies. Meritocracy becomes redundant, is ridiculed in preferance to empty PR culture.

Re: The following post: (https://www.linkedin.com/pulse/secure-your-spring-chintan-patel-nezyf/)

What is really disturbing is what has been ementioned by the OP. I had no issues personally with the SED but to see this kind of koolaid pumping post on the very day he/they took away livelihoods of so many colleagues is infuriating. Shows a disturbing mindset and creates a precedence of psychotic culture of management by fear, as has been mentioned by some others.

If the upper management would have an ounce of sense of responsibility then they would question this type of behaviour in public, what sort of impression this creates on employees, customers and partners and the quality (or complete of lack of it) of management that feels compelled to publicly behave this way. This culture of gaslighting, contempt & bullying and insulting employees' intelligence needs to end and end with a BANG before a company can get their mojo back. Learn from NVIDIA!