10% of CDKi to go - The cull has started
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Keyloop is losing markets across the globe due to unhealthy business practices which starts with the overall work culture. Poor leadership, toxic work environment and managers who are in it for themselves and who really don't give a hoot about people developing themselves or whether customers are happy or not.
People are not held to account anymore. Scare mongering is rife, associates are afraid to challenge bad practices as they don't want to be HR's next target and sacrificial pig. People are afraid to stand up and report issues as there is no avenue to report anything.
Associates take the bad culture as the norm now and have pretty much given up trying to get any answers. The sooner the fire sell happens, the sooner things may improve for you or people may get the payout they are waiting for. (Keyloop's current business plan is attrition remember, redundancy payments are not guaranteed.)
Once a major player in the automotive industry, the business has now been ruined and ultimately gone to the dogs. Get out while you can is my advice.
It becomes more and more evident why Keyloop is losing markets across the globe. The main reference markets are old fashioned like the UK, exemplified in multiple of the podcasts. If Keyloop began to look towards markets China, Iceland and Norway they would better understand how the future looks in the mobility industry and create really innovative and groundbreaking products and offerings.
To another year of free dinners, events and podcasts. Without a single day of real work or any real contribution. Cheers
Our great leader's insights from yesteryear. Practice what you preach maybe?
https://www.legalcheek.com/2013/10/the-painful-truth-is-that-theres-a-lot-of-apathy-and-incompetence-in-the-workplace/
‘The painful truth is that there’s a lot of apathy and incompetence in the workplace’
gott nytt år
Frohes Neues Jahr
Happy new year
feliz año nuevo
Don’t see Keyloop here:
https://www.am-online.com/dealer-recommended
The KLT incl. the CPO and his team of directors doesn’t seem to be worth a nickel. Wonder when firesale will continue?
Unite, Prospect or CWU are the union choices. Any one is better than no representation.
The culture of accountability award was an absolute JOKE.
@8z9s CWU is your best bet, but they are sh**e. completely captured by careerists and corporatists. save your subs.
Can anyone recommend a union?
@8yxb to be fair they have spent all year brown nosing and happy clapping at every opportunity. That must be worth an award as to be that false is a real achievement. They were already on the bull$hit bingo card. Full House.
I see nothing has changed. Still the Senior Managers that runs away with the Keyloop internal awards.
What a great way to motivate - I love how Keyloop lives out of 19th century standards, values and philosophy.
Employment Rights Bill has just passed a major milestone in the UK. Possibly a reference to that.
@8yhv Possible recruitment drive? Why so negative? Cheer up.
@8ye4 source? Or just more BS fearmongering?
January 2026 is going to be a busy time for the muppets in HR. Enjoy your Christmas everyone, you may be in for a shock when you come back.
Hopefully you have the opportunity to take some time off within your depleted teams.
Feliz Navidad
great discourse guys, love to see it.
Uk is very dangerous place to have any operations
@8y98 what are you some sort of prat, whats that got to do with keyloop, if we go to war then its pointless, the only people that come up with this sort of sh--e are sad individuals and you fit that point 100%
Where is this advice coming from? Vietnam or India?
You don't know it yet. But the UK government/armed forces are preparing for a war in Europe against Russia.
You may have already read news articles but those are often just scare mongering.
But it's true.
Probably within the next couple of years, redundancies will be the last thing on your mind.
My advice to any Western business is, be very cautious and don't place all your eggs in 1 basket, some baskets should be avoided all together!
For many, this season of cheer and goodwill to all, will be the last for many associates under the Keyloop guise. In reality many are counting down the weeks of their employment, so enjoy it while you can. Take some time off as Keyloop won't thank you for going the extra mile.
Mr 250K will be alright though, he's having goose and will be sharing his Yule log.
I wouldn't get out of bed for 30K
How do you afford to live on £30k?
Honestly unless your house is paid off and no kids
Is this UK?
Life in the UK I am sure you need 100k just to survive, holidays, food, bills
manager at 250, I find it hard to believe, surely you wouldnt even get even half that!!
@8wyp a bit of background. I’ve been here for more than 15 years. And yes I’m in product and yes I’m a manager, but that doesn’t mean that my current title is “Product Manager”. Also I have been a high performer most of my career at Keyloop/CDK and that rightfully have given me some good salary increases.
Remember that there are big differences in the pay between eg. Europe/Canada and India/Asia, which is why we are moving more and more jobs towards the cheap labour markets.
Just a last comment regarding the yearly compensation review. As a manager you get a predefined purse of coins you can hand out. So if you wanna reward someone who have done a great job, you have to not reward someone else. This is why I as a manager hope that not all in my team exceeds expectations, because I simply wouldn’t be able to reward all the good work then….
That product manager is 100% lying to get a reaction
@8wws 29,730 GBP gross. Europe
@8ww8 UK median full‑time earnings are £36k per year. I would ask for a pay rise.
The product manager (below) is pushing cr-p products, which probably don't work and is creaming circa £250 K.
That figure is encroaching minimum wage. Typical example of exploitation at it's finest.
I'm a former manager and can say that pay is not even or fair at any level. My old team had high performers unable to get more because they were at top of band, with others more than 10k lower doing the same job. HR will knock back any sensible requests for pay increase or high grading on a review .
bottom of the barrel. 20 plus years. no bonus. under 30k
I’m a manager in Product, a tier below SLT level, and my compensation package is approx. £250k if bonus is paid 100%. Bonus is 20% of that compensation package.
Let's talk about salaries. There is nothing to say we are unable to discuss what we earn. Or would we be too embarrassed to disclose?
As a former HR employee at Keyloop, I am eager to see how Keyloop will adopt and comply with (EU) 2023/970, which is an EU directive on pay, its structure and transparency, which comes into force next year. I don't know if the structure and transparency have improved since I was there, but if not, I can only urge you to report this to the nearest authority or workers' council.
Want to know more?
https://arlettipartners.com/eu-directive-2023-970-strengthen-equal-pay-and-pay-transparency/
The truth is written in the balance sheets, compare it with those of the competition...no one will speak to you more clearly, everything else is manipulation...and unfortunately the competition is winning by a landslide...
@8vkt choose the job centre then… find another job if you’re not happy.
Choose Keyloop Life. Choose a sh1te job. Choose a sh1te career. Choose the Keyloop family. Choose a £ucking big television, choose washing machines, mobile phones and electric cars. Choose good health, low cholesterol and denplan insurance. Choose fixed interest mortgage repayments. Choose a starter home. Choose your friends, play your enemies. Choose leisurewear and matching luggage. Choose a three-piece suite on hire purchase in a range of £ucking fabrics. Choose Keyloop and wondering who the £u-k you are and have become on a Monday morning. Choose Stress. Choose a dead end job with no career path. Choose Keyloop's toxic culture and management. Choose happy clapping. Choose sitting at a desk at home watching mind-numbing, spirit-crushing Teams meetings, stuffing £ucking junk food and Keyloop biscuits into your mouth. Choose a non existent bonus. Choose being given the workload of your redundant colleagues. Choose no training. Choose no support. Choose systems and policies not fit for purpose. Choose rotting away at the end of it all, pishing your last money in a miserable job at Keyloop, seeing your salary diminish year on year, watching all your colleagues sh&t on from a height, nothing more than an embarrassment to the selfish, £ucked up brats you spawned to replace yourself. Choose India. Choose Vietnam. Choose your future. Choose Keyloop life…...............
For those of you who are not familiar with the term “Quiet firing”, used widely by Keyloop, read this article:
https://lawhive.co.uk/knowledge-hub/employment-law/quiet-firing/
Another swivel-eyed yank lunatic selling vapourware, that’s what we need. What could possibly go wrong?
The vast majority of tech companies have people in India, also, the percentage of support people based in India is less than 5% so I think your source is incorrect
@8thx if war broke out, dont think anybody anywhere will be investing, bit if a stupid comment
I've heard Keyloop now has a large part of its support staff in India.
If a war ever broke out between russia and the west which looks more and more likely every day, India would most certainly side with russia, this is potentially a massive risk factor for any potential buyer.
I know some companies are relocating support to more neutral locations such as Vietnam and the Philippines. China would also be a massive risk.