Last count was approximately 141,000. They are ramping up labor reductions again so that number could fall faster than the last few years. Of course some of the numbers will be hidden with the Lumen acquisition.
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DEG / DLC will be cut further. Many ex-DEG working specials now and looking for work. That was done with MLT tickets a few years ago. Can’t have folks sitting at the yard or running the AC in their truck anymore. Union officers in DEG are the first to be surplussed this time. Sorry, you could still be a wire tech, three a day or you can’t stay. You will be coached twice before termination. That is all.
That 141k includes contractors.
That is NOT the number of full time employees.
The company is already 60% contractors and 40% employees.
Real employee count is approximately 56k full time employees
Counts have been going down down down for a long time now. So has revenue, but yeah. The two aren’t correlated or anything.
Actually, the more important metric is revenue per headcount. And T has been able to increase that most times in the last few years.
https://bullfincher.io/companies/att/revenue-per-employee
Probably 20-30k less than current. Only thing I do know is, the headcount will be much lower than last year. Counts have been going down down down for a long time now. So has revenue, but yeah. The two aren’t correlated or anything. Cut costs is all these folks know.
In 2020 I put in for the $50 grand plus sipp in SE. I didn’t put in for sipp by itself. Glad I got the $50G’s plus sipp, came out close to a years pay. I took a technician job repairing avionics. The phone company was getting d-mbed down everyday and the managers thought a wire tech could do the complex work so they loaded the Ssim Dt ‘s the wire tech jobs they turned back. Wire techs are lazy.
“Get it under 100,000 like Verizon and T-Mobile.”
That’s certainly where they’re aiming.
Verizon did $12B more in revenue in 2024 with 100K employees.
Get it under 100,000 like Verizon and T-Mobile.
We got rid of them deadweight couple Mondays ago. Bunch of complainers about RTO. Ours booses picked good. No more long drives for them. Them can go to Costco now midday or go play golf or walk the mall. Next all those TWs be removed hopefully or at least cut their pay. End of year this year we be 128,000.
“Clearing more dead weight.”
The heaviest of such is in the C suite followed by the extraneous layers of “VP’s”.
Get rid of the switchboard operators.
@f4 zero. Only bought the fiber. Lumen employees under contract until march 2026.
How many employees did ATT acquire with the Lumen purchase?
@d9 You sure you’re not talking about yourself here….? 💀💀
As they really have not even began to turn down switches or roll off copper for faa or 911 they continue to in advance cut the workforce of these services. Knowledge and work ethic needs to be passed on to the new younger smaller workforce.
The comment, “Getting rid of more dead weight” was obviously from someone that isn’t financially ready to retire. This may be due to their age or their own recklessness and irresponsibilities of handling their own finances. The sophomoric comment tells a lot about the individual. There’s always time to change and try to be a more productive and responsible individual. Best of luck in the future.
Getting rid of more dead weight.
A lot of 911 is still on copper D4 equipment and trunks, same for FAA and other govt circuits. Getting harder to repair by the day due age of the eqpt. There is still some paper cables in service from the early to mid 1900’s.
Clearing more dead weight.
They are not supporting the repair of their own thousands of t1 and ds0 circuits that are used to monitor the network. Company circuits are still on copper just like the faa.
As assets are sold and the workforce concentrated into fewer states, it will become harder to hide all the layoffs. Expect more of the hunger games at overcrowded offices which is part of the plan to get employees to quit. Systems, maintenance and processes get worse by the day due to the knowledge drain and budget constraints.
Don’t know where Stankey and the execs final number is at but it’s becoming too lean everywhere except for the c suite and the four layers of VP. Maybe Stank plans on them actually doing real work instead of Power Points, meetings and delegating.
129,000 Since no one is safe unless on the friends & family plan. I go with the over of more than 10K layoffs.
"What will the total employee HC be at year end?"
Two - the POS Stink and his daughter!
Between 132,500 and 134,900.
@aa The person I know was told the company accepted his SIPP a day or two before the MOA was announced so beat him out of the extra 50k. He asked and they aren’t granting him it.
For the person hung up on weekends as not being a business day ie. Sunday, breaking news AT&T is a utility and open 24/7/365. Every day is a business day for those who work for the company. I’ve worked many a weekend, all nighters and 13 days in a row with one off then start all over. Maybe your job has a set 5 day a week M-F schedule but a lot of employees work various schedules on any given day, weekends included. Many coordinate with support offshore or across time zones. Until recently, a lot of Central Offices in metro areas have 24 hr 7 day a week coverage along with govt. and 911 positions.
I’m also a union member but work a lot of weekends, I understand the Union offices usually close on the weekends but they can still post layoff announcements on the websites. Either way it’s not a big deal what day it’s announced around the 15th, you are getting spun up over nothing.
@a7 It’ll be interesting to see if this is how they do it. SIPP papers have been in and I filed for the Emergency MOA Voluntary Severance Offer, ($50k plus SIPP table).
The D3 core contract article 7.01A5 states, …“The company will notify, in writing, by 15th of month preceding surplus quarter the Vice President and appropriate State Director of the Union or their designees all anticipated force reductions prior to reductions.”
“* Timeline for notification not applicable for economic surplus declaration within CPE organization of dedicated technician positions.”
That is why people keep saying the 15th because it’s contractual, not to say it can’t be posted prior but it’s usually posted on the 15th.
Be forewarned, for those that already have their SiPP papers in, they are granting them then offering the enhanced 50k offer to the rest a day or 2 later. You only get SIPP which is a bonus but not nice of the company to shaft those already volunteering to leave out of the extra 50k. Happened to a guy I know and even though he is grateful for SIPP, not happy how it was administered without any prior knowledge of the offer.
People, why do you keep indicating that the next layoff announcement will be on June 15th when it's a Sunday? Not sure about you, but I don't work on Sunday since it's not a normal business day. Having been with T for a very, very long time, layoff announcements have never occurred on a Sunday!
The company needs to stop the "nickel and diming" now. Reduce the total workforce at T to 60K. Quit playing games Stankey, for once please follow through with your workforce reduction plan.
The reduction numbers vary but approximately 6% is the bottom number last few years so that would be around 8,460 and go up from there.
In SE D3 they offered System Techs in 1st qtr 2025 and didn’t reach their goal so a layoff was announced including other inside titles. 2nd qtr. they have offered 4 wall ET’s and DEG DT’s under the CNIO org, unknown if goal has been reached. Layoff announcement is June 15 per contract or once a qtr. What titles and groups are next?
Starting first quarter they began offering voluntary enhanced severance for some labor titles. Trying to reduce most senior that are at or near retirement and those who are ready to go. If they don’t reach their goals voluntarily then, layoffs will follow.
The pattern so far is HR is methodically going through various orgs and targeting certain groups and titles that are related to older tech ie.. copper network. The company’s goal is to have most of the copper networked decommissioned by end of 2029 so a restructuring of assets and layoffs will continue through that date.