Over the last few months, I’ve been part of several teams calls, some just our local pod and others department wide, international and regional. Seems that it’s starting to real for many employees who are losing (or about to lose) their jobs and have noticed they just don’t give an F anymore as the employee will take themselves off of mute and start arguing with management in front of the entire team or department…not really professional, but they are losing their job anyways, so what do they have to lose? Love seeing employees finally start standing up for themselves, even if they are losing their job at the end of this. Would be great to see an employee grab the microphone during a live event and speak up telling Charlie and Scott like it is as I guarantee they don’t even know half of the struggles many employees are facing on a daily basis.
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There are a few managers in Auto that have a knack for verbally abusing employees on calls. For one in particular, it's been reported to the "Ethics" line and nothing seemed to become of that.
I wonder how many HR and corporate bootlickers are commenting on this thread trying to do damage control while trying to save face.
@be+1jmysqxg6,
They started this war, we must fight back. They are the ones who created the "us vs them" culture. Some of you have never learned the old lesson: They don't give a sh*t about you.
Wells Fargo will become a case study of how to destroy a good culture and replace it with a toxic cesspool of despair. Now we have all these Chase / BofA rejects trying to "fix" the bank and leave their mark, but it's just making it worse by creating an overly competitive and toxic "us vs them" gladiator deathmatch.
Ironically, none of the Chase or B of A people I've encountered, which is increasing daily, have really impressed me much. What they are good at, however, is schmoozing and taking credit. This is the game we're all playing now, and frankly, they are better at it.
After a reorg, a new manager came to our team. We don't get along. This dirty manager tried to set me up to fail on several occasions. I think he is trying to lay me off by writing a bad review. I will not speak up loudly because I know it won't work. I will just set him up to fail quietly. They do it to me, I will return the favor. That's the Wells Fargo way.
Here’s a clearer and more polished version of your message:
A9 here. I agree—if the hiring manager is someone I’ve complained about, that’s one thing. But acting unprofessionally on a group or department call with hundreds or thousands of people only makes you look bad. No one is saying you can’t voice your opinion, but if you do it in an unprofessional manner, your message will get lost, and it will reflect poorly on you.
Hey man cant we all just get along? Time to blast the snoop a loop
There's a difference between acting a fool and speaking up in a professional manner. Belligerently yelling out during a meeting because you don't like unassigned seating, isn't the brightest move.
On a smaller scale, I've always said: try to be friends with everyone, even if it hurts. You never know who your manager will be in six months.
@a3 Wasn't agile to prevent the promotion of incompetent, "bully managers"? Most of the people doing the work have been offshored.
I recently reviewed a resume from a WF manager. I had a WTF moment and quickly rejected it. It said "Cultivated a psychologically safe team environment by championing inclusive leadership, enabling Agile workflows where open communication drove a 30% increase in sprint velocity and reduced blockers through collaborative retrospectives." You can't make this sh..t up!
@a9 That's not the argument you think it is. If the people I'm complaining at are the hiring manager for a job I applied for, I will walk out of the interview after telling them there's still no way in he-l I would willingly work for/with them.
It didn’t work for the employees at Chase. I’m sure Chuckles response would be the same. He doesn’t care about you, he never has. However, being “candid” would be nice!
Everybody here acting as if speaking up about bs going on in the workplace is wrong is either fear-mongering or a manager who doesn’t want to hear any negative feedback about their performance. F-u-k them. Speak your mind.
There’s no permanent record. We’re all adults. They want you to remain silent so nothing changes and they keep collecting their checks.
You can’t expect calm from people you’re sc--wing over.
I remember I lashed out at a bad manager and stormed out of the office and quit. I did get a better role afterwards halfway across the country. One day I was working and saw that old manager walking past me several yrs later. He was in a consultant role but it reminded me the corporate world is very small indeed.
It seems like you missed the point. Like many others here, I will eventually be laid off due to location strategy. Publicly lashing out in a meeting can have consequences—not everyone in those meetings is incompetent or a manager. There are also capable employees and future leaders present. If you plan to continue your career elsewhere, it’s important not to damage your reputation.
@a9+1jmysqxg6 - Looks like your are either part of incompetent management or unprofessional. These useless manager will not be hired anywhere anyway on the basis of "ZERO SKILLS". If they get hired by another buddy, they will hire more of buddies only. SO ZERO CONSEQUNCES.
I agree with the last reply—you never know when your career paths might cross again with someone from these meetings. They could even be the hiring manager for a job you want in the future. A moment of short-term glory isn’t worth the risk of long-term consequences. There will always be people and decisions you disagree with, but it’s important to remain professional. At the end of the day, it may affect you personally, but it’s not personal.
No one really cares anymore. That's what happens when you S on employees and lie to them for 4-5 years in a row.
Also a good way to lose your job without severance. Also, good chance these people may cross paths with others. Not worth it.
People may speak up, but the ones I've witnessed are more half cocked than actually making logical arguments.
"I guarantee they don’t even know half of the struggles many employees are facing on a daily basis."
True. But I guarantee that they don't give a doodley f-u-k.
You will continue to see this more and more while Wells promotes incompetent managers. People doing the work need to speak up or they will be stuck doing nonsense tasks that provide zero actual benefit for the company.