Confirmed Optum layoffs on February 6th.
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@akdc+13h7acp0 The uhg thread listed a lot of impacted uhc departments from the layoff on 2/6. This layoff wave was heavier on the the uhc side but some optum folks were let go too.
https://www.thelayoff.com/t/13oGnthn#replies
Yes. About 5000 people lost their jobs on 2-6-2020. Seams to have been worse on the UHC side.
What happenes to 2-6-20 lay offs. Did anyone get laid off
To all on this forum - No matter where you are... Good luck to everyone on Thursday the 6th. May anyone impacted rise above this and come out better.
The post below sounds exactly like something I would read in an offshore ORS/ICUE record.
US IT jobs are being replaced! It is not the case anymore in which hiring foreign workers is because there are no more talents available in USA. Does Optum break the law? Shall we take action collectively to help stopping this madness?
Check out this article. If you are in IT, you know it is true, I personally experienced a couple of times that my Indian manager hired less skilled his people over other candidates.
https://www.brightworkresearch.com/enterprisesoftwarepolicy/2019/01/31/how-indian-it-workers-discriminate-against-non-indian-workers/
@4oru+13h7acp0 This has nothing to do with competition in a competitive world. Your cost of living is cheaper than in the USA and can work for less than we can. Keep in mind you are also taken advantage of.
To the people with engineering and masters degrees in India. I bet you received your degrees from an American college. Good luck to you all and may you find peace. If we have Medicare for all, then health insurance companies will be defunct and all will be punished!
The United States of India
India does have a ton of holidays. The ones I have worked with in terms of development have been pretty good. Can't say about call center or front line work. But they are MUCH cheaper. It's all about the money.
i work in optum in Minnetonka and my team in India does work very hard. we've had layoffs on my team but those roles were not replaced even in India. we just spread that work among the US workers. many of the developers and all QAs are in India. team members in India do call in sick quite a bit but it's become more often as the company expects them to do more with fewer people as well. they also have to work odd hours and I've been in mtgs where people in India are told they are expected to stay on calls even though they'll miss the cab. just like in US, there are some in India that don't work hard, but everyone on my team works very hard. i can't imagine anyone still working at optum that isn't a top performer. my team is working on projects straight through the day.
i think the frustration is that this is a US healthcare company and the money made is from US market so the company should show some loyalty to their US employees. how do they expect people in the US to afford their product and/or support it in the next election if they don't hire US and show loyalty?
UHC’s push for globalization is a double slap in the face for US workers. We’re losing jobs AND our limited entitlement program (Medicare) is being supported by offshore resources solely for profit.
Our tax dollars are literally paying for jobs to leave this country.
And I could probably accept it if we were actually seeing reduced costs for consumers but those cost savings are simply being used to feed the shareholders. Your labor is being exploited too.
How does it benefit you to work in a job below your educational level for a menial wage so that a mega corporation can line it's pockets with cash? This is offensive to all of us as human beings who matter. UHG only cares about their bottom line. You are as meaningless to them as the rest of us; giving your all every day for nothing.
this has zero to do with competition and everything to do with a company seeking cheap. Don't be offending, you're the beneficiary of the new corp direction
I work for Optum in Hyderabad and find your comments offensive. We work very very hard and care deeply about what we do. Do not try to denigrate the work we do. Many of us have engineering degrees, masters degrees and work hard to improve things for the company. I'm sorry you are angry with seeing people get laid off, but the world is a competitive place.
Optum is being hit hard because most of us are not money making to the company. It's just about the dollar. So sad they are moving our jobs to countries that have no dedication to their jobs and have virtually no consequence for poor attendance. At least this is what my work group is doing.
As a whole, due to stress this place creates in your life it is best to look elsewhere. However all support given to peeps who want to stay and ride it out as long as they can. Why not? If aim is to not benefit the company and you are not entirely sure you’d be better off elsewhere then stay put. If you are miserable it does help to know others are miserable here also and that it’s a theme here at UHG. No one is healthy here or happy.
What teams were asking to hold off on maps?
I have a plan if impacted. If spared , 'I wil' continue to work my plan and secure the next opportunity. My family recently shared I am different (in a positive way) when I unplug from my job. Its no way to live.
If this is true we will all know soon enough, but would be nice to get a fair warning of what teams are expected to be impacted. Not like anyones asking a list of names here.
@3wli+13h7acp0 Because at some point someone in the upper levels decided that they are spending too much money on technology and the qualified people to sustain it. I guarantee that in the near future all the hiring oversees will come back to bite them.
Any idea why Optum keeps getting hit so hard with layoffs, compared to UHC?
Wigs, costumes, skits, shout outs, woop whoops, decorating, smiley tee shirts, cplastic trophies, singing, hand waving, head bopping, dancing, screaming ones allegiance to the US corporation. For what? Buy the owners another vacation beach house, another yacht? They bought 19 years of life and what do we have to show for it?
I guess this explains why my manager said he is holding off our reviews until the week after 2/5. Since he has already replaced our MN team with new employees down the Philippines, taken away our duties and gives no work direction to the 4 team members remaining in Minnesota, can you guess our fate? I have given this company almost 18 years of VERY dedicated service. What a waste of my time.
For those asking/questioning common reviews starting 2/5. Management was told to hold off starting employee MAPs until after 2/6.
Common sense doesn’t exists with this company. They paid thousands for RN’s to get licensed in every state just to lay them off a month later. This company is run very poorly, with terrible decisions being made daily. It will all come back to bite them in the a$&.
EP = Eden Prairie
the US empire refers to itself as a "democracy". As a US employee, we have no democratic anything. in the corporation, there is no democracy. It's a dictatorship–top down fascism, do as we say or else, your at our whim, little to no employee rights. Your at there whim for everything. You have no voting rights for whos the boss, the c folks, what initiatives, job loss, nothing, an american modern day corporate wage slave. If there going to hire folks, those w/rent, morgages, car payments, children etc..then shouldn't we know if they are going to lay off ? where's the responsibility of the us corporation?
Everyone should walk out, get off the phones en masse protests! Solidarity!✊
Wouldn't it be ironic if EP stood for Employee Preservation? Sorry, needed a giggle today :)
What departments - I keep seeing Optum and UHG. That narrows it down to everyone and isn’t super helpful.
What dept is EP?
Your family until they get rid of you. Then your a non strategic asset, resource, capital.
Optum and UHC wide on 2/6. I’m a senior leader in EP and will be laying folks in our dept off.
This makes zero sense. Common review opens February 5. I mean anything is possible, but it would be a logistical nightmare to award a bonus one day and lay someone off the next. You’d do layoffs before common review opens, not during.
Fake news
Confirmed by who? We don’t need a persons name obviously but it would be nice to know a manager/senior leader from X division of Optum hinted at this. Being incredibly vague does not help anyone prepare for what might come.
Where? What areas?