Thread regarding AT&T layoffs

Strike and shut down the AT&T sh-t show! Grab management by the short hairs and never let go!

Tick Tock, 11 days

I can't afford to walk. I need the money. I'll cross the line.

You guys are paid good enough. Get back to work.

Having said that, if you walk expect to be out 3, 6, or even 9 months.

That sounds great! I have some work I need to do on the house!

Ok troll we give since, you put it that way, layoffs are new, gasp! It’s a reality since all the poor leadership decisions but it doesn’t mean we wont continue to fight for a fair contract . There are articles for job security, layoffs and severance too. They can’t just change policy with a ratified and signed contract whenever they want, like they have with management.

The union will get some of what they want, problem is most won’t be around to enjoy.

“You guys are funny. Any new agreement will be full of give backs and you’ll be able to write it on the back of a napkin. Enjoy the time off….it will be a long one.”

And still pulling away from any deal you’re getting 3 contracts in a row. Let’s make it 4!

“STRIKE!!!! Go Unionists! Work stoppage every week! Grab management by the short hairs and don’t let go!!!!!!”

You guys are funny. Any new agreement will be full of give backs and you’ll be able to write it on the back of a napkin. Enjoy the time off….it will be a long one.

Tick Tock, only 14 days left.

3 to 9 months stoppage, though an arbitrary number, sounds awesome to me. I’d feel like a virtual worker, could get a side gig and do all kind of projects while off. Oh well one can dream but no way will there be that long of a strike for such a critical infrastructure, too many emergency services, military, govt systems and cell services rely on it.

Or expect to be out 3 days like D3 was in 2019, nothing will deter a work stoppage if the company continues to act in bad faith. Continued “manager” opinions and company trolls isn’t going to change bargaining for a fair contract and striking if the need arises. I get it the CP doesn’t want to become techs as much as techs don’t want to become managers but spewing unfactual opinions isn’t helping anyone.

As a manager, I do support the unions. Having said that, if you walk expect to be out 3, 6, or even 9 months. Stankey doesn’t care as witnessed by the last few years.

Here is another fact in quotes below, it’s for union members from just one local so, go to your own locals webpage or Facebook site and see what activities you can participate in, time is of the essence. We will be picketing soon, the company appears to want national attention drawn to it. The latest outage wasn’t enough, I personally don’t think that’s a wise move on their part but what do I know, I thought the same when they bought DTV and Time Warner.

“ Local 9333 members! Our first bargaining and mobilization meeting will be this Tuesday, March 26 at 7pm”

@mog+1rFw9D0v

“ It’s just gasworks, same as usual with the union. Just fanning the fake flames on this board.”

Troll on, if you want the facts that were posted in the OP then go to CWA district 9 site and look up AT&T bargaining updates. At least the person that started the thread gave reference and quotes not some random opinion like you and a lot of other company trolls are doing on here.

Facts are the Union will strike if the company keeps bargaining in bad faith so spout your false narratives but those that want facts need to go to the official union bargaining update webpage.

Since 2019 inflation has gone up 19%. That should be the least amount for raises

Unions are built and sustained by emotions and not facts. Ignore this nonsense.

It’s just gasworks, same as usual with the union. Just fanning the fake flames on this board.

Unions will continue to get a decent deal and low level managers will continue to take it in the shorts. Different year same results

I hope there is a stoppage and that AT&T only negotiates the particular titles they actually need.

Refuse to negotiate for other titles. Bring back only the needed headcount and lock out the rest.

The techs who are part of the continued headcount will apply pressure on the union to get it signed.

Human nature says they will turn in each other.

Some people look for a reason to be a victim and outraged then, wonder why they can’t get ahead in life, it must be because someone is racist or bigoted. The previous post is example A. Everyone understands exactly why AT&T is in their current situation.

As a lot of victims, you used selective comments to support your victimhood theory. I didn’t take that comment as lumping all managers in the same boat, in fact it was implied throughout the post that mid to lower management aren’t in control of their employment conditions which by deduction means their conditions are dictated from higher up.

“ Im not against management, in fact I have a lot of good friends that are managers”

That’s the kind of comment that comes out of the mouth of someone who says they aren’t against (insert minority type here), right after a racist/bigoted rant. Don’t lump all managers into the same bucket as the executives pushing this stuff down everyone’s throats.

I wish you well and hope you receive the best.

Tick Tock, 15 days and after that, it will be up to the Union when to have stoppages.

To preempt the trolls, Yes, we know there will be layoffs after the contract gets settled, company always has and always will but that’s not a reason to stop bargaining for a fair contract or not have a work stoppage. Yes, the company work force is shrinking across the board, result of bad business decisions, network and technology transitioning. Yes, there is always a slow down in work/projects during a contract year, who controls that? Yes, the company wants to get labor at the cheapest rate possible but until America becomes a third world country, they have to pay market wages and stay within the laws, one of which is bargaining in good faith with the Union.

@ept. Typing a lot of words & still clueless. If you think we weren’t magically reaching an agreement & going back to work after the announced 3 days you’re still sadly mistaken. The plan all along was for us to be out for 3 days. No more. No less. Both sides knew their role.

Yeah makes about as much sense as paying union employees wages when you can hire more qualified for half the cost.
Funny that's exactly what they did with management.

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Yep, after 2005 AT&T only hired discount management employees and they have been resentful ever since of those hired before them.

@ept+1rFw9D0v

Still clueless, of course we knew about the 3 days but in addition, we also knew if good faith bargaining didn’t happen immediately we were going out for however long it took. You see the bargaining teams come up with their best efforts to get to a TA then, it’s up to the members to either vote to ratify or vote it down. At that point it’s back to bargaining or strike, if the company won’t budge. Even back door dealings have to muster membership approval. United we thrive, divided we beg.

Over the last couple of years, managers are saying, please don’t RTO me to a run down and overcrowded building or please don’t relocate me. How about, can I have my week of optional vacation and my retiree medical back? Only two weeks then off payroll after I get a layoff notice? We used to get XX months, gasp! It’s unfortunate but leadership has gotten us here.

Bargained has choices unlike you, who is a told employee, without work rules or a contract but those you are defending have a golden parachute when they leave or get laid off, do you? Ask all those that have to make a choice to relocate or RTO how that’s working out for them. A contract puts legal agreements and work rules in place that each side has to abide by, what a concept, huh? Isn’t that a terrible thing?

Im not against management, in fact I have a lot of good friends that are managers but I chose not to, they have. To each their own, I chose security and a contract, they chose more money and opportunities, so they thought. Half are gone now, by layoffs.

@hof+1rFw9D0v Enjoy your trolling. We all know you're jealous of union job security. You'll get the tap on the shoulder soon enough.

Yep the only access to AT&T they will have will be this website. Their ID card will be a worthless piece of plastic. Maybe they can place all of their old ID cards in a memory box. They can reflect on when they got hired in their youth and look at the last photo ID and wonder, what happened...

“You don’t get it, it didn’t go beyond the 3 day ULP because the company rushed in a new team to settle,”

Apparently you don’t get it. We were TOLD it was going to be a 3 day strike BEFOREHAND. Management knew, craft knew. Sorry if you didn’t get the memo.

Yeah makes about as much sense as paying union employees wages when you can hire more qualified for half the cost.

Funny that's exactly what they did with management.

“ Yeah, it happened. The preplanned 3 day strike. By the time they got finished giggling the “strike” was over.”

You don’t get it, it didn’t go beyond the 3 day ULP because the company rushed in a new team to settle, if that didn’t happen and the company continued down the acting in bad faith bargaining, what do you think was going to happen next. It would have resulted in a full on strike, nearly 100% of union members walked and the few that crossed paid dearly afterwards, they didn’t get any help from their fellow co-workers, ostracized, etc.. Most of the SCABS are long gone now, good riddance to the free-loaders. It’s not a laughing matter when people’s livelihood’s are on the line, all they are trying to do is get a fair contract to support their families.

STRIKE!!!! Go Unionists! Work stoppage every week! Grab management by the short hairs and don’t let go!!!!!!

The union is going nowhere. That’s why there are unions! Read up, learn! Unions built this country. Stankey did not! Say what you want but be smart about it. Union labor is a whole lot smarter than us d-mb managers. They are protected. Let them be and let them help us. At least they have the ba--s to do it

Management was giggling during the 2019 SE contract negotiations too, until it happened.

Yeah, it happened. The preplanned 3 day strike. By the time they got finished giggling the “strike” was over.

@jpc+1rFw9D0v

“ Yeah makes about as much sense as paying union employees wages when you can hire more qualified for half the cost.”

Let’s follow the logical conclusion to your brilliant solution. It’s the principle of diminishing returns. If companies continue to seek out the lowest wages and not pay any benefits then, who will buy their products when the middle class collapses. Following the lowest common denominator is the way to ruin, fair living wages and a healthy middle class is why America has been the largest economy in the world, for all-time. Everyone wants to sell their products here but if you only have two classes, the minority rich and the majority poor, it all goes bust.

The only way the middle class continues is by paying livable wages and keeping up with inflation. If those jobs are outsourced and off-shored or wages continued to be lowered or stagnant then, you ki-l the goose who laid the golden egg.

@hof+1rFw9D0v Enjoy your trolling. We all know you're jealous of union job security. You'll get the tap on the shoulder soon enough.

“I’m good being out 6 months, finally catch up on my honey do list.

Wife works and we can live on her income. I'll stay out as long as it takes.”

Please do

I’m good being out 6 months, finally catch up on my honey do list.

Wife works and we can live on her income. I'll stay out as long as it takes.

“Management was giggling during the 2019 SE contract negotiations too”

Yep and we’ll be giggling know you goofs will be checking your union site 50 times a day for an update that tells you nothing. Then when it is , you’ll see all the concessions you’ve given. What is pure comedy though is the fact you think T actually can’t go on without you…. Yeah stick with that one.

__See ya, let’s see how long your “relief funds “ last.
Longer than you.

Managers are expendable as RTO has shown us.

Union isn’t going to do anything.