Thread regarding ExxonMobil Corp. layoffs

Entitlement Mentality Has Taken Over XOM

Much like a majority of the country, the “I want, I need, I deserve” mentality of the entitlement culture lives strong at XOM. Once a company of go-getters, the whining and blaming rings loud today.

Call us boomers or whatever it takes to self-justify your loathing of anyone who doesn’t think like you. While expat premiums were needed and well deserved for the significant sacrifices of working and living at hard to staff locations, I never even heard of a COLA for domestic locations, whether you were in Texas, California or the east coast. I read the complaints about expats, but how many of you have lived in West Africa, PNG, or the Middle East? Would any of you go tomorrow if the company said that is your only option? Many of us did. And would again.

The company match is a perk, not anything promised for all time. It depends on whether it is needed to hire and retain talent. And that will determine if it comes back.

When it takes an armed security detail to move around the country in which you are working, it is hard to have much sympathy for those afraid to report to the office in Houston. And I imagine all of the field, plant, offshore, drilling, etc. workers might like sitting at home too, but instead they have never stopped working at their assigned locations, just like much of the country’s blue collar workforce. After all, someone has to deliver goods and stock shelves and restaurants when you whiners sneak out of your safe space spaces at home to satisfy your wants.

And tens of thousands of XOM employees have been laid off over the years with no severance packages. Same for “forced early retirements” without any package whatsoever. If you can’t see and accept that, why are you here? If those things are important to you, why did you hire on? And enough of the cr-p about recruiters promising nirvana at XOM. We’re you that gullible and incapable of due diligence on your part? Are used car salesmen your financial advisors?

There is plenty wrong at XOM. Always has been. Always will be. But there is also excellent pay, benefits, a rare pension, and numerous opportunities. XOM may be tough, unfair and ugly, but that tough ugly unfair goose lays some employee gold too. For everyone, not just management. And the majority of you take all of that gold you can get, while whining and complaining endlessly.

The entitlement generation will never be satisfied or fulfilled, regardless of where they live, work or their wealth.

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Post ID: @OP+1aNOwh4a

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Boomers think the internet is a series of tubes

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Post ID: @2hqy+1aNOwh4a

95% of Boomers and Gen-Xers at the company don't know how monitors work,

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Post ID: @1nwt+1aNOwh4a

Op millennial here, I agree we should also cut the pension and not pay it those entitled people who think they deserve it, life isn't fair!

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Post ID: @1lfs+1aNOwh4a

Congrats op you have become the HOA guy!

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Post ID: @1tam+1aNOwh4a

Hey OP, thanks for continuing to whine about anything and everything.

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Post ID: @1cyv+1aNOwh4a

“LOL” in responses = a sign of low self awareness, shamelessness, and low intelligence.

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Post ID: @1fbq+1aNOwh4a

@1oza+1aNOwh4a

An absolute lie

Millennials hold orders of magnitude less wealth than their parents did at their age

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Post ID: @1ccb+1aNOwh4a

OP Seems you feel entitled to have everyone around you think like you do. Sorry bubs not the way the world works. Best get used to it.

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Post ID: @1lul+1aNOwh4a

A “rare pension”, OP, this is one of the great benefits this company offers in your opinion ? Well, it’s becoming rare indeed, since from now on it’s reserved for the upper management only. Regular workers get now laid off at 50, the few remaining REs get thrown out using the NSI. Never been done before, because it’s only the prospect of a pension that keeps those with 15 y. s. here. So stop pretending that it’s just the same company with the same issues as 25 years ago. Given your age, you should know better.

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Post ID: @1qcx+1aNOwh4a

This thread is such a clown show.
So much relevance discussion of so-called generational gaps.
we the people in any generation have the right to correct any wrongs.

Capitalism making this country great for 200 years!
We all know what a piece of 'capital' was 200 years ago.
A peculiar institution.

And Prump lost btw.

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Post ID: @1ghf+1aNOwh4a

Absolutely ridiculous to say the entitlement is generational. I know plenty of young folks that take brutal ops roles to get ahead, and I know plenty of greybeards that sat in an office for 30 years thinking their only job was to follow a procedure, not to make money for the company.

It cuts both ways, across all ages.. The only thing thats certain is that the people who ran downstream into the ground were in senior positions, and those weren't entitled youngsters

Quit being caricatures of yourselves.

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Post ID: @1nfp+1aNOwh4a

Easy for boomer to say this when you’ve already gotten yours and are set. You received the big pay and uplifts. Those days are gone now.

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Post ID: @1aup+1aNOwh4a

Don’t worry boomer we will tax away and redistribute all your retirement funds you are so proud of.

#BidenHarris

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Post ID: @1ybr+1aNOwh4a

Well boomer you created us. We are your children so take a look in the mirror. Maybe you should have brought us to church more often and taught us morals.

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Post ID: @1gid+1aNOwh4a

Yeah boomers have done so much good for this country. Not. Thanks for leaving so much debt for your children and grandchildren. Shipping all our jobs overseas. A big round of applause for the boomers.

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Post ID: @1nno+1aNOwh4a

@1xfs+1aNOwh4a except boomers. Y’all just won’t go away.

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Post ID: @1sat+1aNOwh4a

@1oza+1aNOwh4a

Nice try, but most American businesses thrive because of a free capitalistic society, as has endured for a couple hundred years. Each successive generation has left their heirs a much richer and better world to live in. Not perfect, not without its challenges, but with abundant opportunities for those that rise to the challenge. It is only over the past few decades or so that this rich inheritance has been squandered, most recently by the spoiled brats of today. Clear to me that you are one of these.

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Post ID: @1xfs+1aNOwh4a

@1kev+1aNOwh4a

Boomers have not left debt for future generations. Instead, politicians of all ages are responsible for the debt. We all know who saddles the country with debt. Boomers are known to be fiscally responsible and diligent savers, and many live well below what their wealth would allow because of the values instilled in that generation to get by with less and save for the unknown. Served them well.

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Post ID: @1xjz+1aNOwh4a

The philosophy of “I want, I need, I deserve” - that is ExxonMobil's own point of view.
Not mine nor the majority of its victims.

Corporate Socialism been making its own destruction for a long time, while stomping on the rights of individuals and societies.
I don't see a problem with people recognizing that.

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Post ID: @1oza+1aNOwh4a

I'm a millennial and agree with most of the sentiments from the OP. Easiest time/place to be alive in human history and we have boomers etc. to thank in part for that privilege. That said, the 'boomers' as a generation left 100% GDP debt and impossible to fulfill outlays to my generation. A little thing called inflation will destroy that debt, because it is the only political option. That debt reset will destroy the value of the Exxonmobil pension for those who retire before their pensionable pay explodes in dollar terms (not in real terms, of course). A decade from now the boomers will curse the millennials for not voting for austerity - but that is how the world goes round. Jubilee.

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Post ID: @1kev+1aNOwh4a

Best post I’ve read on here. I worked in all those sh---y countries, 9 foreign work permits in all, saved my $$. Laid off December and pleased as punch about leaving the company to the millennials. Enjoy that death spiral!

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Post ID: @gci+1aNOwh4a

State schools in Texas produce best engineering degrees in the country and are not expensive. No, you can’t make 10x EM pay. You probably don’t even have a job. I’ve kissed worse than boots in my day, but that’s how I went from oil field trash to multi-millionaire, and not ashamed of a single thing. You are a sheep. Smell like one, talk like one, run like one. LOL

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Post ID: @gur+1aNOwh4a

As someone on the cusp of millennials and hem Z, it is absolutely not an insult to think that we are entitled. We are entitled. We have no interest in licking boots or slaving for corporations. College is literally 10 times more expensive they get through than when when boomers went to school. So, yeah, when we graduate with degrees from top universities or high honors, we expect to be compensated and treated as such. There are companies offering 10 times the benefit as Exxon and they don’t make you lick boots for it. We’re sorry you’ve been conditioned to see the treatment of Exxon mobil as normal but as you can see from the attrition numbers, it simply won’t be enough to retain any talent in the future. If you want to sell yourself short then have fun, don’t expect us to join you.

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Post ID: @zsu+1aNOwh4a

Yes, pension and medical should be eliminated for all. Will happen sooner than later. Few people have these in other industries.

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Post ID: @lpd+1aNOwh4a

Op
Maybe if they had cut back the pension by say 20% or stop the medical subsidy, would you be singing the same tune?

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Post ID: @vpd+1aNOwh4a

@grh+1aNOwh4a

Yeah, empathy those initial 3 responses to the post. That’s the norm from this bunch.

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Post ID: @vdv+1aNOwh4a

ID: @zpp+1aNOwh4a

If you are a union member, you are guaranteed provisions of the latest union contract until it expires. Otherwise, If you think that college recruiter made life long promises and commitments, you really should never have graduated.

Life doesn’t offer promises. Deal with it.

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Post ID: @fth+1aNOwh4a

Amen, thanks for the post 40 year boomer here,

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Post ID: @htg+1aNOwh4a

I can always exercise my option to take my services elsewhere if I feel I'm not valued here. Been a good strategy to get solid pay bumps every 3 or 4 years.

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Post ID: @hyb+1aNOwh4a

What you are entitled to is the benefits set forth in the work offer both parties agreed to during the initial offer negotiations. Any cuts to these benefits without a cut in the work expectations is not fair. But I guess we do not live in a fair world so fu-k me right?

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Post ID: @zpp+1aNOwh4a

OP - If I have a C to D probability of being beheaded, than the role isn’t for me. Not entitled...just using what the company taught me about risk.

Likewise, if the match shows up in my Compensation Statement every year, it is clearly more than a perk. A perk is free coffee.

And more: Y’all used to be hippies. Your generation looked just like the kids do today through your parent’s eyes.

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Post ID: @dmb+1aNOwh4a

Why does it always turn into a generational conflict? If your COLA has been cut, match stopped, been working out to the field since October, and you are mad at the situation then you have the right to be mad. There are those that will take it and those that will complain, and those that will leave. It doesn’t matter your generation. How about a little empathy instead of jumping right to judgement?

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Post ID: @grh+1aNOwh4a

Typical troll responses. Profanity, changing subject, blame game, feel sorry for me the victim.

One trick ponies.

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Post ID: @abr+1aNOwh4a

In California Boomers went one step further in screwing all other generations... Proposition 13, a measure approved by voters in 1978 that limits property-tax increases on homes until they’re sold. That’s been a boon for Baby Boomers who’ve lived in their houses for decades and aren’t assessed at anything close to their property’s market value. But it’s especially unfair to their children, who are in effect subsidizing their parents’ generation.

And, the entitlements... Let's call them the great entitlement generation, they for sure know how to milk the system. And, the cherry on the top is all of this complaining about Millennials being lazy (while Boomers are ensuring that the minimum wage does not move)...

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Post ID: @nln+1aNOwh4a

you’re supposed to lick the boot, not de-------t it

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Post ID: @hrz+1aNOwh4a

ask any baby-boomer XOM employee to set up a zoom meeting

see how long it takes

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Post ID: @zap+1aNOwh4a

Millennials are the most entitled generation on earth

Stan, 62

  • Paid $200 total for his college degree
  • Bought S&P 500 when it was only 100
  • Got a well paying entry level job without even applying
  • Bought his house for $5,000
  • Doesn't know how to use PDF or Excel
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Post ID: @yzo+1aNOwh4a

Blink twice if you’re being held captive.

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Post ID: @xjf+1aNOwh4a

Perhaps XOM is just another boomer awaiting (early) retirement?

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