Thread regarding Cisco Systems Inc. layoffs

One Company, Many Careers .... define 'many'

so with the impending mass LR coming shortly after we watch the ELT try and spin some magic fairy tale to explain why are numbers are cr-p and we didn't see it coming 6 months ago, we'll get to see how closely Cisco lives up to the one company many careers slogan.
Right now from grade 11-13 across all aspects of the business and every country in EMEA there are 14 jobs open. watch that number and just remember when they parrot 'reinvesting into focus areas'.... and see how many more jobs open up to fuel that reinvestment

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"One company", Cisco, frees you to have "many careers" when they feed you to the LR machine.

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@hfj+1qXeGruO, yes, I was shocked when I saw that slide during an all-hands and posted it's contents here on a thread. It seems like it got taken down as I can't find it any longer.

A company should not be bragging about that much churn in employees. When you're losing 20-30K employees in just a couple of years, it's a sign that you're not treating your employees well. How much productivity is lost when a person quits, a manager has to waste time getting approval to open a job req, work with recruiting to get it posted, look at resumes, do interviews, hire & onboard the new person, order them a laptop, open requests to grant them access to all the tools, repos, network shares, etc. so they can do their jobs, and get them up to speed and working? All because we treat people like sh-t and try to lower the average age of the employees and have a lower pay grade as a result.

I wish I'd kept the screen grab of that slide to post the numbers here again. It was staggering. But the ELT was trying to spin it in a positive light.

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Post ID: @hxp+1qXeGruO

Cisco intent is to have a young and cheap workforce. Mainly cheap . Young is a good consequence to market.
Remember the slides some months ago where we were superproud 20 or 30k of the people left the company in the last 2 years.
And how we spin this into a success story.

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Post ID: @hfj+1qXeGruO

You are so correct on the "focus areas". You can't forget the "transformation." The current Cisco leadership spin machine is pretty amazing at times. We have to give them credit for creativity.

Cisco never used to be this way. Leadership is nothing more than a political spin machine. They are good at what they say, but that doesn't mean we're buying it. There is no honesty anymore in Cisco. You have to tote the party line, or you're absolutely guaranteed to be on the LR list. It might be anyhow, but speak the truth, professional disagreement with anything, and people are LR'd.

I haven't looked at open areas, but I imagine lower-grade levels are open. That's the new Cisco way, lower and lower grade levels. Wait, I'm wrong; there are exceptions to that. VPs and above. We've all seen lower grade levels in Sales, CX, BUs. Give me an example of a VP or SVP role going to a Grade 13. Not someone taking a new role as a Grade 13 but stating certain VP roles from now on is a Grade 13.

Those making the downgrades of roles don't downgrade their or their peers. They feel it's OK and justified to make a Grade 13 role, a Grade 12 or 11, a Grade 10 an 8. Why don't they think of downgrading their VP or SVP roles? I've heard many times fighting for the right grade level: "It's not about the Grade level but the person and the talent".

So, why not make all VPs a Grade 13? No, make VPs a Grade 12 and SVPs a Grade 13. It's about the talent and not the Grade level.... Invest that money in the BUs so they can make a quality product or CX; forget it can't fix that mess.

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