Thread regarding Intel Corp. layoffs

On jerks and the institutional acceptance of them

First, to be absolutely clear, there were lots of great people at Intel and specifically in Intel’s compiler team. There were plenty of good engineers doing good work, perfectly nice people who wanted to do the right thing. By numbers, they were by far the majority.

The problem was that just a few jerks, especially in positions of power or influence, could fu-k you up real good.

Intel had more than its share of them and therefore, everyone at Intel balanced some amount of technical work with some amount of politics work. You had to. Politics was more than the standard “advocate for yourself” stuff; at minimum it was periodically defending yourself against attacks from others who wanted your territory and would try to get your project shut down so they could take it.

Some people there approached their work with little in way of technological contributions, but a lot of politics. It turned out that that could be a perfectly successful career strategy—undermining others as necessary to maintain and advance your position without ever actually delivering much of substance yourself. Those were the jerks.

One thing that made it easier for them was the fact that software career path at Intel was all about getting away from coding ASAP—writing code was for new grads and less expensive engineers in foreign countries. The glory was being in an architect, never coding yourself, but setting direction. In that role, one could go far without producing anything more than slide decks, I mean foils.

Because there were the jerks out there, you always had to be aware of them. Even if you didn’t want to pursue that model for your own career, you had to defend against them or you’d be wiped out.

I never understood why Intel upper management didn’t seem bothered by their presence. I suppose that once that mode of success takes root, it’s cancerous to the organization and would be hard to root out. Perhaps they figured that Intel was doing pretty well as a company, so why fix what ain’t broke? Maybe they saw it as a good kind of aggressiveness and were happy with the idea of everyone fighting it out, gladiators in the Colosseum fighting each other to win, all for the glory of Intel.

Sometimes the management enablers of the jerks would encourage you to “assume best intentions” in your interactions with them. You’d quickly be out-maneuvered if you did; they didn’t play that game, and knew to take advantage of any opening they were given.

From https://pharr.org/matt/blog/2018/04/20/ispc-volta-going-all-in

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@esu what's the name of that architect?

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Post ID: @2yjc+1tfBBk5H

Same reason why the Windows graphics driver was a dumpster fire for so long, the driver software architect was an incompetent jerk, protected by lousy management.

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Post ID: @esu+1tfBBk5H

They brought a member of the jerk club back as CEO to turn Intel around.

Pat is STILL talking sh-t about the competition and the grandness of his failing company.

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Post ID: @qrz+1tfBBk5H

100% happening in CCG at all levels up and down the stack and in CCG the jerks have each others backs.

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Post ID: @vbb+1tfBBk5H

Aside for the jerks (not necessarily all Indians) I think there was a shift in culture of those phoning it in since Covid. They do the bare minimum, assign the ARs to the ones actually doing the work, but without doing any actual work themselves. I'm in meetings where I represent the devs, as the architect, and there are 7-8 biz/marketing and management types hounding me for status... of course, they have no status, deliverables or anything tangible you can point to. No project plans, support plans, requirements, etc. Zero. I believe in Pat and his direction, but everything in the middle is garbage. I hope he clears it out, but right now I feel like we are a marketing company. At least, the part of the company I'm in.

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Post ID: @iby+1tfBBk5H

You must have had Andrew Beck as a manager...

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Post ID: @lbt+1tfBBk5H

well said. additional impact is the people that actually want to do work and not engage in the toxic bs just eventually give up and leave. thus where intel is today.

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Post ID: @msn+1tfBBk5H

100%
It's the same in manufacturing, I've seen SGLs bragging how they managed to demean technicians to the point that they will leave, MTLs telling a canteen table of technicians they how they were teaching and Engineer a lesson & how her staff would lick her feet by the time she had them inline.
These are only 2 recent examples

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Post ID: @dmt+1tfBBk5H

This is the heart of Intel's culture. It is not specific to any race.

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Post ID: @kye+1tfBBk5H

@hsz - 100% correct. Culture of corruption and nepotism

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Post ID: @uaq+1tfBBk5H

In case you were wondering who the jerks are… it’s Indians.
Sorry, but it’s the truth.

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Post ID: @hsz+1tfBBk5H

the higher management under Pat, then 1 and 2 levels down, are all jerks.That is how they get that position. Intel has the culture of telling lies, stealing others work without being ashamed. They tell lies and plat politics and wipe out people who doubt them.

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Post ID: @aqa+1tfBBk5H

Thanks for this post OP. There is a similar culture in TD. If you compare Intel to Msft, the big difference is the Msft CEO tackled culture first. Satya Nadella went after the jerks. Pat has focused on his roadshows.

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