Thread regarding Ford layoffs

@1gvg at Ford management meetings everyone’s status is always Green.
If someone is honest and reports Yellow or Red, the next meeting everyone else says they are Yellow or Red all citing the person’s team who first reported Yellow or Red as the reason they are not Green.

It’s a game of chicken to see who will be the first to report Yellow or Red. Oftentimes no one does and then an execs are surprised with yet another product / software launch flop.

The cheerleader who keeps posting things along the lines of “Ford modern software will fix all problems” clearly is not in the trenches and seeing the laughable quality of said modern software and the “we will let the customer find the bugs” attitude. A recent example. Joe YoungBlood declares he has completed and fully tested software feature ABC. Sam OldBlood decides to test the feature. Problems galore. The two biggest

• #1 Slow as Molasses if more than one user attempts to use the feature. A Quick Look showed the code doing exclusive enqueues on all data elements, which basically means only one user can use the feature at a time. Total newbie mistake, and Youngblood clearly only tested with one user - himself. And worse yet the order of enqueues was not consistent which lead to deadly embraces ( user one has exclusive enqueue on data elements A and C and asks for data element B; user two has exclusive enqueue on B and asks for data element C ; neither can continue as the other has what they need). They both hang until the timeout limit is reached, then cancel and retry, rinse and repeat

#2 if the user uses anything but the default options, it either gets lost or croaks and a app reboot is required. Again newbie only tested with default options.

When the punch list of issues presented they were declared being too picky and the feature launch proceeded. And yes dear readers, immediately the complaints rolled in, and what happens ? Well Joe YoungBlood declares he is too busy working on the next new feature and clearly it was the fault of others because his code worked perfectly. And the LL6 and LL5 back YoungBlood. So this quality modern software will continue to be written and foisted on customers. What lesson did YoungBloods coworkers learn? Look the other way and let it all implode.

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Leadership reports that everything is booming. Hybrids flying off dealer lots.

Just look at how many Mach e's and lightnings they are selling. People...don't...want...these...vehicles. Why? I guess someone should ask the C-Level executives...maybe they have the answers. Or maybe there should be some legitimate market research done. Yeah that's a great idea. It's going to get serious in 2024 if the executive cannot back up their talk with real action. You can only shed so much labor before it becomes catabolic (self-eating). Shedding labor is the go to for executive that want an easy out. Time to get creative, or better yet start putting the hammer down on quality. It's been an issue for years and there has been nothing but cheap talk. What is this based on? Currently leading the industry in recalls and the number of vehicles recalled. Not a place Ford wants to be.

@dma+1q0bpKJe. Give us a break. There is absolutely nothing thus far coming out of Model E to indicate the electrical system will not be failure prone.

@jwr - nostalgia is great but number don’t lie. Ford quality is the worst amongst all the other manufacturers.

My comments from a Ford+ Plan view:

1 transmission---Will no longer be an issue, e-motors don't have problematic hydraulic (legacy) mechanical transmissions
2 Engine---Gone, electric motors are much simpler and thus more reliable
3 Electrical---New Model e developed and led software will make electric 'gremlins' a thing of the past
4 Suspension---You got me here, this is a mechanical necessary evil, but with modern software and controls, suspension will be reliably managed like never before

Yeah, after replacing all the stuff on my F-150, the dealer called me wanting me to trade it in. i told them that I now have a new vehicle so I should be good for another 100,000 miles.

BTW, I had to replace tires this year...

Started at ford years ago and had provided many family members a plan pins. After quality issues and ford acknowleging responsibility (weak) for their vehicle issues no families ask for pins anymore and buy competitor vehicles.

Lol what elese is left
Only tires..

My F-150 had several problems. Luckily, I bought the extended warranty as it was out of the regular warranty.
First the torque converter went. Then the manifords, then other parts started to go every 2 months. The last part was the throttle body. Had I not had the extended warranty, it would have cost $12,000 (total).

This is simply an attack piece. No manufacturer has all of these problems or the lemon law and people would simply walk away. I'm proud of most of what Ford makes, not happy with the bs, but I have always believed the sheetmetal and the whole package was the best we could do among the players in the business, which when you consider some of the other manufacturers who cut corners out there, you can maybe agree. I spent some time doing competitive vehicle tear-downs and analysis. There is some clever stuff out there but nothing show stopper great - not even close. If you've been around long enough you get to know about lots of stuff. Like expensive paint systems that look good but don't protect, squeaks and rattles from sh-tty body structures topped off with urethane window seals to make the front glass "structural" only to weaken over time and annoy the he-l out of you. The industry has been pushed into places even our customers don't want to go. With cr-ppy cost trimming results from suppliers and lack of focus internally. Yeah I know times su-k. But I still like our tribe.

If none of my friends and family members own a Ford, that should tells you something about the Ford products.

My neighbors asked me why Ford vehicles has so many recalls, his son's Fusion has been in the shop for repairs every other months. I am embarrassed to tell anyone that I work at Ford. Going for a new job with Toyota in January. 👍

I thought this was going to be, “The four problems with Ford:

1. F
2. O
3. R
4. D”

Who’s the bigger problem Jf or Bf?

One does what Bf wants

The other hired Jh, hired Jf, (during the same time that Hinrichs and Thai-Thang ‘departed’) and thinks the f150 lightning is the “most important launch ”

😂

Not a single person in my family owns a Ford vehicle. That tells you the bad rep from Ford.

You can call out every major manufacturer for recall and quality issues. GM (ignition, fuel pumps, ect) Stellantis most recently blinker issue causing a stop sale...Ford...for unfortunately leading the industry in recalls period. They all have issues. Why do Ford's issues seem so bad? because those that see why they are occurring see the common sense slipping away along with the reputation and it's frustrating. Company just celebrated 120yrs and they think they can't keep older employees with enough mechanical aptitude and engineering sense to help prevent these stupid things from happening. Telling everyone (including the youngsters) that software is the future of the company. While I agree that is very well might be, that's doesn't negate the need for physical quality control.

It's bad, I have owned Ford vehicles before. I had all 4 of these problems and many more.

This is why I no long own a Ford.

This is hyperbole. Are there problems in the product? Yes, but its not as bad as you make it seem.