Does not being a white male make you an automatic DEI hire? I see people with education and qualifications being called DEI and I would like to understand.
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Not true. The state of FL went on a Hispanic female promotion spree a few years back. A few were worthy, but most were not.
I wasn't going for those positions, but I worked with other white males who were, and were much more qualified than the ones who got it.
Yes….case closed.
If you can’t win on merit then the system must be rigged or standards lowered to allow others not competent enough in the door. Where does that get us as a society and country? Like everyone else around the world, there is a reason America is the world’s superpower but identity policies are clamoring to be mediocre at best! Everyone deserves a seat at the table, if they are qualified, Period!
ESG essentially says a business should worry more about certain parts of society rather than profit.
So make business decisions, like who to hire, not on whether that person can help the company succeed, but base the hire on how you want to be perceived by society.
Also known as “virtue signaling “.
ˈvər-chü-ˈsig- nə- liŋ or virtue-signalling. : the act or practice of conspicuously displaying one's awareness of and attentiveness to political issues, matters of social and racial justice, etc., especially instead of taking effective action.
ESG stands for environmental, social and governance. These are called pillars in ESG frameworks and represent the 3 main topic areas that companies are expected to report in. Diversity, Equity, and Inclusion (DEI) comprises the central 'S' in ESG. There can be no successful ESG without a honed focus on DEI.
Been here 37 years. Seen so many YT boy college hires come in, look & act the part, then get promoted on up with a fraction of the experience of us incumbents. Jobs filled before we knew they were open. Sent to secret leadership training. Some on up to VP. When we got the idea to call upon them to help out the little people who spent months training their new-hire arses, Sorry! No positions available! Now a few folks finally get a come up and y’all can’t stand it!
75 percent of all of leadership positions are white males .You just su-k.
No. DEI means white males need not apply.
Yes. There is always a question mark invisibly above your head. Because DEI is soft racism.
White people are lazy - DEI hires work harder so we don't have to.
Cry me a river you dainty little flower.
Just excuses from those who really are underperformers (and happen to be white men too).
Reverse discrimination of white men is similar to the fairytale about the “War on Christmas”. You just want to continue to force your way of thinking (or not thinking) on and hold power over everyone else. That is, those who have been in the majority position for forever are complaining cause the others who’ve experienced real oppression are given a chance to succeed.
At AT&T, we have reverse discrimination because us white males are overwhelmingly overlooked as part of the workforce career growth at AT&T. White males are totally discriminated against solely because of our skin color and gender and the only solution we have is to create a series of town halls, trainings, workshops to identify the lack of equity we experience and the sense of not being included in the workforce. We shall call it the “Diversity, Equity and Inclusion” task force to combat DE&I and we will correct this situation with post haste!!
Give me a break!!
Oh the humanity!!
White men are the persecuted class now 😢. For what, the last few years (if any). Read a history book or two with an open mind (and not the ones that gloss over the real facts of historical oppression).
Get over yourselves already.
In the past, SBC now AT&T would hire and promote blacks & women with HS degrees over any other color for jobs & promotions.
Same for hiring & promoting based on who your relative or neighbor was.
If you were Kitchens' daughter you were hired. She's now a VP level. Same for the side women of executives - when the executives were done with 'em it was move em and promote em.
Saw this many times.
If you are white, you are qualified. That is definitely not DEI.
“Does not being a white male make you an automatic DEI hire? I see people with education and qualifications being called DEI and I would like to understand.”
If you have a system that gives unfair advantages to 1 in 5 candidates or even 1 in 10 the perception will be that all candidates got an unfair advantage as the system is inherently unfair and corrupt.
This is just how the human mind works, it’s psychology.
You see the reverse happening when a minority doesn’t get a job, they assume it’s racism each time.
If you have unfair systems that don’t promote meritocracy universally then the perception of those systems will always be that they’re unfair and corrupt - which is why we need to strive for completely unbiased blind hiring, promoting, etc.
If everything is based off of merit and we have faith in the system that it’s performing as intended (remove name and gender from resumes, use numbers in interviews, etc) then less people will assume unfair outcomes.
Same should be done for universities, applications should be color blind, except for one color green.
The only affirmative action in the university pipeline should be monetary need, an advantage for economically disadvantaged students should be given vs wealthy students who have an obvious leg up. This alone would promote diversity of THOUGHT and naturally lead to more minorities and poor white folks getting into universities and be better for everyone.
The economic class you’re born into isn’t indicative of your intelligence or your potential value to society and we should strive as a society to raise up those in lower economic classes who have the abilities to excel - not based off skin color but economic standing.
“For the purposes of the companies ESG rating, yes. Qualifications are no longer relevant. Only corporate access to the debt instruments provided by the companies that created the ESG rating system.”
This is kind of the real issue, a lot of people dump on white guys bi--hing about DEI and assume they’re just racist or whatever, but a lot of proponents of DEI don’t realize the deck being stacked against hiring white males vs anyone else.
To pump up ‘diversity’ numbers it’s almost always advantageous to hire someone who isn’t white and male vs anyone else even if the other person isn’t as qualified as said white male due to the market advantages of having a high ESG rating and the push from the c-suite to pump those numbers up.
So if you have two candidates one who is very experienced and lets say can perform a role at 100% but they’re a white male, and another who is a woman or black and can perform same role at 80% the company will hire the diversity hire and take the 20% hit to pump ESG numbers up.
This is where the resentment comes from.
And how do you know how many more qualified candidates with more education or more experience were turned away because they were NOT D I E? It is pure Kommunisim.
For the purposes of the companies ESG rating, yes. Qualifications are no longer relevant. Only corporate access to the debt instruments provided by the companies that created the ESG rating system.