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Can Someone Please Explain Ford Levels?

Like what's a LL5, or LL6, and what's considered "management?"

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@qhg, what layoffs last week?

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@9hg, LL4 can be Chief, Assistant Chief, Sr Manager, or Global Manager, etc depending on org. LL3 is usually Chief Engineer, with LL2 being Director typically. LL1 sometimes is Exec Director or VP.

FCGs come in at GSR5, fresh grads are more often GSR6, at least in in technical roles.

There are also individual contributors at the LL levels (LL6 = Technical Expert/Specialist, LL5 Tech Leader, LL4 Sr Tech Leader, LL3 Executive Tech Leader, LL2 Henry Ford Tech Fellow)

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At Ford, the salary grade ranks have no A or B or C suffix distinction, so those salary bands are invisible per se (but they do exist, as HR does publish salary ranges for each rank by percentile).

Fresh college grads hire in at GSR 5 (GSR=General Salary Roll) and get promoted to 6 in one to two years.

Engineers then progress through level 7 until they stagnate at level 8 and never get promoted again.

The first layer of management (they're company car eligible) begins at LL6 (LL="Leadership Level") and ends all the way up to LL1.

Those folks are all termed MR's ("Management Roll") which is a relic of an older, archaic system of Ford ranks.

The engineering titles are (in order):

  • Supervisor (LL6),
  • Manager (LL5),
  • Chief (LL4),
  • Director (LL3), and then
  • VP's (plain ol' VP and Executive VP) / Corporate Officers' are LL2's and LL1's.

There is a very rare technical track (especially after last week's layoffs), and of course other organizations have their own titles, especially in manufacturing and purchasing.

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