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IBM Second-Quarter Earnings Advance on 9% Sales Growth

https://www.wsj.com/articles/ibm-second-quarter-earnings-advance-on-9-sales-growth-11658174983

By: Sarah Donaldson
Updated July 18, 2022 6:46 pm ET

International Business Machines Corp. IBM -1.28%▼ reported 9% sales growth in second-quarter results that also reflected some of the wider concerns tech investors confront as the sector kicks off its earnings season.

IBM on Monday said revenue for the April through June period reached $15.5 billion after Chief Executive Arvind Krishna vowed to reinject growth into the business. As part of that plan, IBM spun off some of its declining operations last year.

But the company also exited profitable operations in Russia after Western governments imposed sanctions on Moscow for its invasion of Ukraine, IBM Chief Financial Officer Jim Kavanaugh said Monday. The strength of the dollar also affected its results, he added.

Still, IBM said earnings per share in the second quarter rose almost 80% from the year-ago period to $1.61 a share. Sales and earnings per share surpassed Wall Street’s expectations, according to analysts surveyed by FactSet.

The company is also dealing with inflationary labor pressures. The company’s consulting business, which represents more than half of IBM’s workforce, is seeing higher costs, Mr. Kavanaugh said. IBM is adjusting pricing to clients, he said, though there is a lag until those costs can be recovered. The company said it also is seeing other costs increasing.

IBM shares fell more than 4% in after-hours trading.

The pandemic was a boon for many tech companies, with people working from home embracing digital products and services. Recent weeks, however, have brought signs market dynamics are changing and tech companies are looking to adapt.

Chip companies are seeing signs that demand in some areas—such as personal computers—is ebbing. Snap Inc. SNAP 1.98%▲ has said disruptions in the digital ad market would weigh on its results due Thursday and Microsoft Corp. MSFT -0.96%▼ has warned that the strong dollar would weigh on its earnings. Alphabet Inc.’s GOOG -2.53%▼ Google said this month it would slow hiring for the rest of the year, after Facebook META 1.54%▲ parent Meta Platforms Inc. in March said it would throttle back.

Mr. Kavanaugh said he sees automated and digitized tech as a “deflationary force” with generally strong demand heading into the second half of the year. “Technology is becoming a source of sustainable competitive advantage for every industry and every client, and especially in highly inflationary markets, which is what we’re operating in today,” he said.

Mr. Krishna said the company’s business prospects are largely unchanged amid growing concerns about an economic downturn. “Our pipelines are remaining pretty healthy,” he said on the earnings call.

The strengthening of the dollar against many foreign currencies caused IBM to update its full-year outlook from the prior quarter. The company, which stuck to its sales growth forecast on a constant currency basis, said free cash flow should reach about $10 billion this year. IBM had previously said free cash flow would be between $10 billion and $10.5 billion.

In recent years, IBM has bet on the areas of hybrid cloud computing and artificial intelligence to restore growth. IBM bought open-source software company Red Hat in 2018 to underpin focus on hybrid cloud operations, where companies mix using their own, private servers and remote data centers operated by others. Hybrid cloud revenue grew by 18% to $5.9 billion in the quarter and generated $21.7 billion in sales over the past 12 months.

Software revenue in the most recent quarter rose 6%, which included revenue from its commercial relationship with Kyndryl Holdings Inc., KD 2.88%▲ the operations IBM spun off last year.

IBM also reported growth in its infrastructure segment during the second quarter, driven by sales of a new generation of mainframes the company provides.

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It would be Implausible for IBM to not view the unexpected additional headwinds as a revenue reduction. Currency, rising interest, additional employee costs, Russia, Watson health, and mainframe 2nd q fast start. There are pieces of each that were not in plan, and IBM will deal with them as the year goes on. I expect all in depending on how far out IBM wants to model you are looking at 2.5-3.5 billion worth of additional headwinds

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Post ID: @1hwq+1hNDt1ao

This article lays out IBM’s strategy quite well Mainframe

https://www.fool.com/investing/2022/07/20/this-crucial-part-of-ibm-grew-by-77/

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Post ID: @1wcl+1hNDt1ao

"Apparently traders get worried when you are 50 billion in debt and you dividend payout is higher than net profit 1.2B profit versus 1.4 billion dividend payout). In my day we called that a Ponzi scheme."

@thu+1hNDt1ao

You are incorrect. Net profit was 2.1b and dividends were 1.5b.

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Post ID: @1dih+1hNDt1ao

This article reinforces IBM’s issues. As goes FCF so goes IBM stock. If IBM wants its stock to move, they have to increase their FCF (it funds their future growth). How do you do that in a reduced corporate spend environment? Reduce costs or increase revenue. What will IBM management do given they have already demonstrated the revenue growth part of the equation.

https://www.investors.com/news/technology/ibm-stock-buy-now/

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Post ID: @1zqx+1hNDt1ao

the "new IBM" where mediocrity it celebrated as success

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Post ID: @1wxy+1hNDt1ao

Twitter may be available soon. But it might be covered in Musk cream. It would be good if Musk could learn to pull out early more generally. 10 of his is more than enough. And keep the shirt on. Please. He’s no Iggy Pop. But I diverge.

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Post ID: @1pzf+1hNDt1ao
Tanking because Red Hat growth is slowing I think.

Time to waste another $34B on something else!

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Post ID: @1dxc+1hNDt1ao

It’s not a Redhat issue, but rather a legacy Infrastructure issue. IBM makes it very difficult to separate products, but you can certainly see TSS and Hybrid cloud revenue were the weak points under Infrastructure. (Note hybrid cloud is reported TTM). I suspect low end Power and Storage were the drags as Enterprise solutions were given good press during the analyst call. Thank goodness Kyndryl bought a lot, or TSS would have shrank approx 3%. Hybrid cloud revenue (Kyndryl revenue included) shrank 5%. Both of these trends will likely continue to be a drag going forward. Note TPP excluding Kyndryl also shrank 3% year over year. Again not a good trend, but IBM is wedded to TPP so it’s just a cost of playing in enterprise.

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Post ID: @zvj+1hNDt1ao

This is primarily a FCF issue . You drop the FCF by 500 million or 5% -6% and your stock drops by 5%-6%. Otherwise revenue went up, which says the strategy is working albeit slowly. So should management institute a cost cutting move, to move the FCF needle, or do they just wait it out and suffer thru the strengthening dollar?

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Post ID: @eji+1hNDt1ao

Tanking because Red Hat growth is slowing I think.

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Post ID: @crh+1hNDt1ao

Apparently traders get worried when you are 50 billion in debt and you dividend payout is higher than net profit 1.2B profit versus 1.4 billion dividend payout). In my day we called that a Ponzi scheme.

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Post ID: @thu+1hNDt1ao

Smoke and mirrors as usual... IBM stock price down $10 this morning at market open!
Bottom line, cash flow and profit keep on going down over time.

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