Thread regarding Wells Fargo & Co. layoffs

Has anyone ever been denied FMLA leave?

Does Wells have any way of interfering with the FMLA process due to 'business need'? I know it's through Lincoln Financial so I don't see how they could.

I'm the only one on my team that can do my job and we have a time-sensitive project coming up that hinges on my knowledge/access. HR just revoked my accommodations and I'm now being advised by healthcare professionals to look into taking leave or quitting, but my manager is asking me not to quit since my team has been hit hard by layoffs/attrition and I have no backup. I personally don't really find this lack of planning to be my problem, but don't trust management to not pull a fast one if I try to go out on leave.

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Post ID: @OP+1rPorltV

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their problem is THEIR problem. your boss is an a** for saying that to you.

FMLA decision is made solely by lincoln financial and wf/your manager has no input. The question of "undue hardship" only has to do with ADA accommodations - FMLA does not have that standard.

LF can decide whether it is paid or unpaid though. they don't have to pay for FMLA.

FMLA only grants specific rights/protections. be sure you are completely familiar with what can and can't happen before you choose that path.

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Post ID: @1tmk+1rPorltV

Side note: If you get thrown into an "investigation" - they will send you on paid FMLA for about 60 days and not greater than 90 days. It was nice being paid while away but use that time to find another role. I did and ended up finding a better company, role, pay, team, and benefits. It works out. Just comply and be respectful but know the grass is much greener elsewhere. And their investigations are a joke - lol.

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Post ID: @1azf+1rPorltV

Best to talk to Lincoln Financial
Discuss your options with them.
No obligation.

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Post ID: @1xwi+1rPorltV

OP here, thank you everyone for the information!

@hmb+1rPorltV. Fair observation and I didn't want to go into full detail on the nature of my condition in the original post. I'm in the middle of a flare up and am approaching a concerning weight, but my need for accommodations would change if my condition subsides/we find a medicine combo that works (maybe that's why people keep suggesting FMLA leave?). For now, I can manage to work remotely, but it's basically impossible to get into/stay in an office most days when I'm in a flare until my condition chills out.

Trust me, I really wish this was just a 'time to job hunt' (don't even have energy to do that) cause the stress of having to decide whether to quit (and lose my health insurance) or try to take leave that I might not even qualify for is making things worse.

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Post ID: @1zva+1rPorltV

It seems like many of you are confusing FMLA and disability. FMLA can be taken for many reasons but you will not get paid. If you qualify for disability then you will get paid. However Lincoln will determine if you qualify. You will need to give them a medical reason with documentation from a doctor. If you do they will give you up to 30 days then you will need to give more documentation to extend it.

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Post ID: @qby+1rPorltV

It's possible you'll get approved for leave but NOT approved for PAID leave. My partner went through a period of intense depression, but he wasn't hospitalized and wasn't in intensive outpatient, so he was approved for leave (job security) but denied for pay during that LOA. It can be really brutal. They heavily scrutinize each unique situation.

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Post ID: @xjj+1rPorltV

You are not golden if doc fills out forms. They keep asking for more documentation. Happened to my friend and they denied her disability pay even w doc submitted numerous responses

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Post ID: @hro+1rPorltV

@ucq+1rPorltV

I would be shocked that the reason would qualify for FMLA but not accommodations. Kind of smells...

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Post ID: @knd+1rPorltV

There is a FMLA form that the Doc needs to fill out.
If the Doc fills it out OP is golden

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Post ID: @ucq+1rPorltV

All the previous posters are skipping over the rules of FMLA. It is true that it is a Federally protected right, but that doesn’t mean you can just take off and claim it as FMLA because your accommodation was revoked. If your absence qualifies as FMLA then Wells cannot interfere with Lincoln’s determination.

I, however, do not see how you can possibly qualify under FMLA without either a major change in your medical status or you lie. And I suspect Lincoln will require medical proof as they do for other situations. The stipulation for FMLA for yourself is that you are unable to perform the essential job functions. And how is a temporary FMLA situation going to help you long term if your reasons for needing an accommodation aren’t going to go away? Give you time to job hunt?

https://www.dol.gov/agencies/whd/fmla

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Post ID: @hmb+1rPorltV

FMLA is not regulated by Lincoln Financial. You are guaranteed FMLA by Federal Law.

Lincoln determines if your leave falls under disability and pays you according to their decision.

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Post ID: @rip+1rPorltV

they have to to provide a similar job, so same level and pay. I say forget them, if you were truly that important to them they would make an exception for you. if you quit tomorrow, what would they do? If you got into an accident on the way to work what would they do? They will manage and it isn't up to you to manage for them. Take care of yourself.

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Post ID: @wsh+1rPorltV

Why isn't wells Fargo shut down? What a joke.

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Post ID: @psn+1rPorltV

Keep in mind that FMLA doesn't mean WFC will pay you or keep your current job. They have to provide a job, but not the same.

WFC can't really get in the way since it's a federal program.

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Post ID: @lcn+1rPorltV

No. They will need to figure out a way without you.
Make sure you document and transition everything

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