Honeywell has become the type of the company where people go to see their career die. Nobody gets a job here anymore unless they absolutely have to because they can't get a job anywhere else. Nobody smart is even considering joining this place. The same is true for those who are already here. Those who are able to find a job are gone as fast as they can. And to think that working here was at one point considered prestigious.
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Funny you’d say that. I got a great review this year to be called by the VP and told “I need leadership in my pipeline that don’t look like me, white male.” I was pretty taken back by the comment as I prefer to think of myself as someone who should get promoted because I’m on top of things, not because I’m female. I’m moving on to another company as Honeywell does not share that philosophy. They replaced my white male, very competent manager with a non-white female who happens to not know her a$$ from a hole in the ground. The VP got double points for her. Good luck meeting your goals now, id–ts.
1) Engineering is not a Profession. Why? Name one profession that gives away time for free. Lawyer? Nope. Doctor? Nope. Accountant? Nope. Moneyhell Engineer? Yes!
Every Salaried Exempt position in the world - yes.
At least they don't have murder hornets... yet
It was lousy years ago, it is a bona fide sweat shop now. YoY benefit reductions, ask any lucky RIFee from last year how there new company benefits compare. new lows are established each year like giving you a raise, taking it away and raising dividends and increasing stock buy back. morally corrupt. Freezing retirement plan with no gradual phase in like other companies impacting loyal workers who devoted decades to the beast. Lousy place to work? Bet you can't find any worse
@ctn, no one is making you come here to experience the off-gassing. And by the way, it's "people WHO are...", not "people THAT are".
Here are some facts about working at Moneyhell:
1) Engineering is not a Profession. Why? Name one profession that gives away time for free. Lawyer? Nope. Doctor? Nope. Accountant? Nope. Moneyhell Engineer? Yes!
2) Salary compression: One HR mission is to hire you in from college then slowly suppress your pay increases until in 5 years, you're working at the same annual rate as a new hire college fresh-out. Whoa! What happened? Answer: How do you cook a frog?
3) Three Spheres of Power: 1. Executive ranks, 2. Finance, 3. Human Resources
Notice that Engineering and/or Operations isn't there? While we know they're essential to company performance, the fact remains that any change originating in those groups requires too much time to trickle down to the bottom line. Unlike the Big 3, which at the stroke of a pen can "readjust performance" by (respectively), a well timed leak to Wall Street, extending payment terms to suppliers, and last but never least, drum roll please... employee layoffs! This is why Moneyhell values Engineers or Production Managers somewhere around, "Official Rat-K–ler of Islamabad."
4) Management Excellence is an oxymoron. I worked for dozens and dozens of managers over my career, yet I can count on one hand (with a couple of fingers remaining) how many I considered "excellent" to work for. Most were exiles from Engineering, talentless ticket-punchers, shamelessly sickening sycophants, or outright psychopaths, set to "make a name" for themselves on their way to the top. In contrast, there was a time when managers were marked down at review time for losing an employee to another company; today he gets a Bravo Award from HR.
5) You're only as good as your worst reviewer among many: Since "matrix management" by another name has taken hold at Moneyhell, the likelihood you will be disliked by some manager you never worked with, or for, is very high. Rumors run the gamut during the "totem-pole" sessions and sadly it can all boil down to that unfortunate grimace you made during a gas attack in the hallway, while passing Mr. Bozo. Simply put, Moneyhell is all about "diversity," as long as it doesn't involve personality. Those 12,10,8,? Behaviors must be adhered to by all (except Executives).
6) Why would you want to work for a company that honors its longest serving employees by RIF'ing them every chance it gets? There was a time when PHX employees would compare "Sperry Life Numbers" and be amazed at the guys still around who were only two-digits. They were never laid off, but they did get some incentives to retire. Imagine, all that money Moneyhell spends on Severance Packages, effectively paying employees to stay home and not work, could have just as easily been given as a "golden handshake" to a, date agreed to, retirement. Both company and retiree could enjoy the accomplishment, while celebrating a long-lasting bond, and encouraging younger workers to stick around. Everyone smiles. But nooo, that's not the Moneyhell way! "Let's terminate that cranky old fart, so we can reduce our employee-salary burden, while counting him with those like him in the RIF numbers, so we get a nice stock bump. We can then transfer all his work to 5 guys in India."
Moral of the story: Only work for a company that values its OLDEST employees. Valuing young employees is an HR ruse to make you feel better.
HR Facts:
Their #1 job is to save the company money.
Their #2 job is lawsuit avoidance.
Their #3 job is union avoidance - at all costs!
All their actions make sense once one understands these facts.
You know what really makes a place lousy to work at? People that are always b–ching about how lousy a place is to work at....
The industry has become extremely bleak and sterile, with the vision and scope of yesteryear a distant memory. The wormy little bean counters set the agenda today. Treading water and polishing the t–d are the orders of the day.
Definitely a place where careers die.
Check out the Collins blog, not better
If one wants a real change with all the awesome benefits, then go to google, Amazon where they offer stock grants, etc. Very nice office and free food too :-)
@utn+19UU05Xb Engineers don't get to enjoy extra money from OT. We have to give it for free. We also get to attend off-hours meetings to work with the India team after working a full day.
@utn+19UU05Xb's post was in response to @vfb+19UU05Xb's post, not the one about toilet paper!
OMG! I thought I was THE ONLY ONE who feels the same way! For those of you who are still there enjoy the OT if you can. Enjoy the extra money in your bank account. I know money isn't everything but if you QUIT, make sure you can still sustain the way of life that you may be used to. There are other jobs out there, but if you think about it, you'll have to learn the product, the process and the people. Especially for the HW long timers, are you really ready to start over from scratch?
Used to drink coffee, eat food, and take a sh-t there but they asked me to do it from home due to a virus. I miss the company funded toilet paper.
I'd come back. Now, before y'all start hating, just hear me out. I unequivocally loved my job and loved the people I worked with even more! Was pretty much forced out due to poor decisions made at the top and a severe lack of support from my immediate manager. I would come back and work just to have something to do. All of the drama and craziness there wouldn't matter at this point in my life because I could take it or leave it. I wish it were the same for more of you.