Thread regarding Wells Fargo & Co. layoffs

I just heard the phrase Constructive Dismissal

Pulled from Wikipedia. Sound familiar?
In employment law, constructive dismissal, also called disguised dismissal,[1] constructive discharge or constructive termination, occurs when an employee resigns due to the employer creating a hostile work environment. This often serves as a tactic to avoid payment of statutory severance pay and benefits. In essence, although the employee resigns, the resignation is not truly voluntary but rather a response to intolerable working conditions imposed by the employer. These conditions can include unreasonable work demands, harassment, or significant changes to the employment terms without the employee’s consent

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Post ID: @OP+1uHDJbIy

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this is happening more and more in both Risk and Tech. Holding back hope for displacement is the latest low blow. Demonize the employee, make them so stressed the only way out is quitting, not to mention what it does to their overall health. No unemployment, no severance. I have a coworker that is going through this. Painful to watch, but I need my job, so I say nothing and avoid the targeted employees. I feel like a coward for looking away.

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Post ID: @3mqy+1uHDJbIy

This horse sh-t keeps getting more ridiculous but also demonstrating someone is working the program on Develop You. A new skill can be added for “Creative.”

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Post ID: @1vgh+1uHDJbIy

@xcp+1uHDJbIy ditto

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Post ID: @wkj+1uHDJbIy

Just now heard the term?

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Post ID: @bux+1uHDJbIy

Thanks OP for bringing up this topic. WF’s operating committee is dishonest with our customers and employees. They will create toxic environment and then gaslight you until you quit.

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Post ID: @jsz+1uHDJbIy

constructive dismissal is also called "quiet firing". It is illegal in most cases. "Many are defending quiet firing as something to combat quiet quitting"
https://hrtrendinstitute.com/2022/10/13/quiet-firing-why-it-needs-to-stop-and-how-hr-can-get-involved/ is a good link that defines "quiet firing".
In simple terms, quiet firing is to make someone feel so uncomfortable in their role that they finally reach a point where they feel they can no longer continue in that position. There are several things that a manager can do to an employee that might constitute quiet firing, such as:

Withhold deserved salary increases
Assign greater responsibilities to other colleagues or other team members
Repeatedly pass them over for promotions they have clearly earned
Rarely pick them for important projects or challenging assignments
Deny access to training and development
Set unrealistic performance targets
Give no consultation in setting expectations, targets or tasks
Give little or no constructive feedback or give negative feedback that is unanticipated
Display an aversion to frank and genuine dialogue about performance, career development or work relationships.

Of the above how many of these are practices of Wells Fargo churn and burn efficiency imperative?

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Post ID: @xcp+1uHDJbIy

@OP+1uHDJbIy
OP, thanks for posting, I was just talking to my spouse last night about how creepy it is to see people gone all of the sudden. We just get an email "so and so us no longer employed with the company ". The team gets a big shock, and we are left to wonder wth?!

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Post ID: @vuc+1uHDJbIy

They dont backfill positions. We are expected to just keep absorbing more work. And if you complain, you're Not a Team Player. How can their goal be anything but getting us to quit?

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Post ID: @bbl+1uHDJbIy

I meant to type they not the. But to piggyback on my own response, I've witnessed ALOT of people here one day, gone the next this week. Makes me wonder if I'm next.

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Post ID: @rwu+1uHDJbIy

Makes alot of sense. I've witnessed alot of people here one day, gone the next. With so many of them and no explanation, there's an aura of mystery. Did the resign, or get displaced, or fired?

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