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Autonomous.... is everyone dumb?.

Oracle database has been, for a long time, one of the most difficult to change elements in any IT architecture. A big part of the Consulting and ACS revenue has been related to upgrade, patch and maintain databases. A sizeable customer has to typically allow 12-18 months for any large scale patch/upgrade exercise.

And, all of a sudden, we have a database that is "autonomous". And autonomous is a pillar for our new cloud business.

Working for Oracle close to the matter, I know how many hands are around that "autonomy".

Is the rest of the world dumb?. Disoriented?. Do they believe in fairies?.

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All autonomous is, is Oracle writing scripts to automate many of the processes. Most likely a daemon that runs some commands and based on certain conditions, takes an action. People have been doing this kind of automation for many years. It's nothing new. Oracle just decided to productize it and create some new buzzword to go along with it.

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Post ID: @apwu+104KaC0A

I am going to start working autonomously. Sounds easy, and I’ll make more money.

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Post ID: @apui+104KaC0A

@104KaC0A-1wvc, completely agree.

It is just that Cloud that does not exist, autonomous that is not.... too much of a farce.

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Post ID: @6uql+104KaC0A

Everyone who is an industry "expert" apparently is dumb since they continue to believe the BS that Oracle spouts on every earnings call. You'd think these guys would hire a someone who understands the technology and could explain it to them before they endorse Oracle's shady practices.

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Post ID: @3ail+104KaC0A

Actually, the core functionality is the goody old database. The "autonomous" thing is a a bunch of open source. The DB works fine; the rest is c-ap and the product still doesn't work as exptected. Although, once the issues will be fixed, it will be a marvelous product.

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Post ID: @2qas+104KaC0A

The only reason we're even pushing this is because investors love anything that sounds like AI. It's all about the stock price, not about selling products or services. Who cares if it exists or not. Just having a bunch of "Autonomous" stuff in our portfolio helps keep our stock price up. What can I say, Wall Street is easily fooled, even if engineers aren't.

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Post ID: @1wvc+104KaC0A

It isn’t that difficult to automate the application of a patch application. Shut the DB down, run the patch script, start it back up, done. Oh, it didn’t install cleanly? It doesn’t start up? Something unexpected in the app doesn’t work anymore? Oops. Perhaps it could then autonomously log a service request with support.

It’s a marketing feature.

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Post ID: @1bpz+104KaC0A

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qi7Dga-vRKM

Certainly monkey have plenty of Magic

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Post ID: @ohp+104KaC0A

Decades of innovation that is impossible to be put in a product but appears magically in the Cloud, all of a sudden.

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Post ID: @qiy+104KaC0A

Do they have any real customers? Last earnings call, they were boasting about the trial customer numbers

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Post ID: @fvn+104KaC0A

Thanks. Yes I do think people are that dumb. Even insiders at Oracle are unaware of how this is achieved. If it can be done "auto-magically" why can't it be sold as a product that is not maintained and managed by Oracle personnel. Oracle will tell you that customers are not able to provide a consistent and stable environment. This is like the Wizard of Oz - pay no attention to the man behind the curtain. Can't tell you how we do it because of the "trade secrets".

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