Thread regarding Xerox Corp. layoffs

There is a legal principle called "detrimental reliance" that was successfully used by the Rochester New York police department against I think their government pension fund. A lawyer told me the same could apply to Xerox but I have not had time to pursue it.

@ehw
From your contribution:
“All I see is corporate greed and incompetent leadership. Pretty much where we are the last few years with less concern for the worker”
I’m pretty sure that’s why the poster was speaking of legal action; so it stops.
They are looking for justice for all affected and trying to set a precedent to stop it from happening to others. Moving on and doing nothing only accepts the actions and creates a new normal
I doubt it’s being a snowflake
It’s sending a message of what should be acceptable in society

@ptu
You were seriously trolled
14 positive responses and all of a sudden 14 negative ones based on letting people know they should understand what is really going on?
Who comes on this site to disagree with those that are pointing out how this has, and continues to, roll out?
It’s laughable if “they” think they’re fooling anyone
Someone getting spooked?
They should be

@vcp
I would love to be where you work to have the direction you had. That sounds .......heavenly.
In my area it went like this:
126 people were told they had 3 days to sign an offer letter to keep their jobs and if they did not sign, then in 5 days they forfeited their job.
Everyone had the same choice and when management asked his VP about it, the VP said to sign it or not have the job.
I don’t recall any conversation about Norwalk or SarBox, or ethics or legalities and I would remember that because I’m the manager that went to hisVP and asked the questions:
What I got was “there is nothing we can do”
So everyone signed
3 days notice does not pay the bills or find another job
I’m pretty sure most places went more like mine and probably a lot less like yours.

@uay
For some, it’s not the amount of time working per day, it’s the work itself teaching others to be your replacement and then correcting their mistakes so they get it right.
Kind of like digging your own grave and thanking them for doing it.
I know that’s excessive as a comparison but you should perhaps try to understand the physiological dilemma this is for people with families and multiple years of their lives put into their job with what was once the security and comfort they had from a once great company.
Just try to imagine what they feel
That’s all.

I would like an answer from Xerox as to why if I was badged over to HCL and my paycheck comes from HCL that my core is being charged back from Xerox for every salary of every badged over employee, so basically Xerox badged me over to supposedly save $, BUT they are paying HCL who is passing that $ on to me and then Xerox is sending the bill for my salary to my core, ok does anyone else see shadiness in this??????

@ptu
I couldn’t agree more
We have to put a stop to this and get the justice we deserve.
This site is about to be trolled to the max
With Icahn and Deason cronies.
Watch for it......

To the trolls on here, go get an F'n life, seriously , is your life that boring and pathetic that you get your thrills coming on here?
The poster is saying I believe what my core is going through
We have transitioned work, we are not only responsible for correcting all of it but it is 90% wrong, we can't get our regular work done because we're on the phone half the day trying to tell them to use what to do, management is asking why our work is not done, it's a vicious cycle duplicating and re-duplicating work, we're behind in everything and they want it all done by quarter end and we're shortstaffed as half the people left
Xerox badged us over with no legal right to do so, they lied to the SEC and told them 300 people lost their jobs when I know for a fact it was over 5,000
If somebody doesn't stop this then what is stopping any other company from following suit?

I was asked to do something I believed was going to come back and bite us for several business, legal, ethical and SarBox reasons. I relayed to my manager and their manager advising them that I was not going to sign the agreement and why they shouldn’t either. I recommended they send it to Norwalk for signature. I will admit that my management is ethical and reasonable when given the facts. I understand that a lot of Xerox management has a plant (factory) mentality and just do what their asked without question.

@nqo
Fair question if it’s about the actual job.
I was transitioned and find my job got easier so I’m not at all complaining about working for HCL or my job (I’m not the original poster either).
I have zero complaint about HCL
I have a major problem with how I wound up here seeing I am reading about a judge in the Supreme Court of NY stating I was basically put here by people that had no right to make that decision about me in the first place.
Maybe that’s what’s sparking the comments to begin with as others may be now feeling that too.

Is it the job or the reason you were forced into accepting the HCL position? That 3 day choice window with no other job lined up and bills and maybe a family to support. Like you had a choice in the real world?
This topic is getting some negative press isn’t it?
Do you honestly think the people that were given this “choice” are really thinking this question is invalid?
I saw someone had stated “trolls” and I’m thinking that might be true.

Seriously, not trying to be insensitive. I completely understand the anxiety of job security. Just trying to understand which part of the actual work is hell on earth. What are they asking you to do? Are they being unfair or not honest?

Legal action, for what? You are the very definition of snowflake. If you don't like your job, leave and find another one.

If I were rebadged to HCL I likely would have left as soon as I could. I would never seek legal action unless labor laws were not followed. All I see is corporate greed and incompetent leadership. Pretty much where we are the last few years with less concern for the worker.

Obviously trolls
Which means people are getting nervous
To the OP
You are correct in seeking legal action
None of this mess was created out of a business need. This mess was created on greed and a quick buck.
It HAS affected thousands and now they MUST pay because if they don’t what stops anyone and everyone falling into a similar fate over GREED?!
FIIIIGGGGGGHHHHHTTT what was done TO you that was not required or warranted!!!!

Legal action?? Here’s a concept for you: grow a spine and stand up for yourself. Are you so weak you cannot negotiate and manage own workload?

Companies will push you only as far as you permit. If you have allowed this to Ed Soto the point you think a lawsuit is your only recourse, you have already lost.

What is being asked of you that is hell on earth? Are you being asked to work longer than an 8 hour day?