Thread regarding Oracle Corp. layoffs

My take on Oracle (left in February 2016)

I left Oracle a few months ago, so here is my take on the culture and layoffs…

Let’s tackle layoffs first… There is nothing unusual about Oracle Layoffs, you see a ton of jobs lost on the infrastructure side as more stuff is moved to the Cloud. If your job can be moved, it’ll be moved. There is a big push to move things offshore, nothing new for Oracle, this has been going on for decades now, nobody should be surprised.

There are many skills that cannot be offshored, if your communication skills are strong, if you can sell, if you can demo, if you can understand the tech and explain it to others, etc. All good traits to have today… Again, please do not jump on me now, everyone is doing it, it’s not fun and I do not endorse it, but it is our reality and it has been with us for a while now..

Look at the posts below, you will see a ton of Call Center folks, data center folks, etc. complaining – yes, those layoffs are happening, they are real, people are losing jobs and it’s horrible. But also, the fact is, everyone is doing it and for Oracle to survive they have to follow the same path…

Now, let me talk about Virtual Culture of Oracle – this is super cool. People work from home, it’s flexible, you have freedom, you do not lose many hours in commuting, etc. This is one of the best things at Oracle. This works for some folks, others are less skilled in it, you need to be disciplined and self starter. It’s hard to develop relationships, which hurts you in the long run. But, it was great for me as I did not want to spend a lot of time at Oracle…

Moving on, let’s talk tactical management… Oracles management layers are stiff and there is a lot of them – I hated this and I hated all reports about reports on reports that were reported… I get the drill… Many talented folks hate it and leave because of this – it’s hard to grow when you are constrained. Affects developers, PMs, analysts, change people, you name it… You have to play Oracle politics, and there is a lot of politics, nobody likes it but everyone is playing it – it’s amazing… Instead of focusing on customers, folks are focusing on politics, this hurts customers, employees, Oracle. It’d bad and it’s a bit worse if compared to other companies that I worked for…

An utter lack of any effective performance metrics down the management hierarchy is leading to an inefficient business culture where success is measured by the size of your organization and this in turn silences all that the customer wants to tell you –it’s all about power struggle and the need to internally survive. I hated this and I did not want to be part of this game – that’s why I left.

Overall, it’s a great company that has a lot to offer to an employee, but after a few years certain things start to weigh on you and things will not be that rosy any more.

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@8fgj good pasta = good post, right?

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Post ID: @9khf+HG5k7Jz

Good pasta, fundamental problem at oracle right now is that neither Hurd nor Ellison care for or understand customers. It's all about numbers and sales plays. Bad way run a company, just look at HP. That was not the case under Block, he understood customers.

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Post ID: @8fgj+HG5k7Jz

Keith Block is 100x the executive Mark Hurd is. In fact, Larry should have fired Hurd instead and kept Block. Hurd can't even lick the crap off Block's shoe. That's how much better of an executive Block is. Just look at CRM and ORCL. Number don't lie. How many quarters has Hurd missed since Block left? Larry needs to get rid of this guy before this disaster gets out of control.

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Post ID: @7sbm+HG5k7Jz

Great post - much truth and wisdom. I was there for 10 years under Block and the Boston Mafia. Great days that the current group will never replicate, or understand. When you start seeing customers as numbers, you lose your way. That's all Mark knows, he is a victim of his experience.

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Post ID: @6iow+HG5k7Jz

I been there 18 years and culture was great I agree. But once Hurd came in that went out door as he wants cheap crying kids not experince people as just a numbers game so my sugguetion is to stay away until Hurd is fired! We van only hope oracle can be saved from Hurd!

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Post ID: @6qwo+HG5k7Jz

This exists everywhere. Culture, trust, and leadership is very important. Employees that don't get laid off or fired will spend their time on the clock looking for another job.

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Post ID: @3kuk+HG5k7Jz

Good and sincere post

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Post ID: @dwx+HG5k7Jz

Cry me a river, if you do not like it, just leave

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Post ID: @yzu+HG5k7Jz

Fairly similar to my experience, 5 years with Oracle, on the consulting side. Met some amazing people, super political though. Learned a lot. The pay can be better, but really cannot complain...

Do not listen to folks who are bearish on Oracle, this company is resilient and will be around for very long time...

It's not easy to work here, not sure if I'd advise my 16 year old daughter to come and work here...

Thanks OP and agree with @HG5k7Jz-sgs

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Post ID: @sta+HG5k7Jz

"You have to play Oracle politics, and there is a lot of politics, nobody likes it but everyone is playing it – it’s amazing… Instead of focusing on customers, folks are focusing on politics, this hurts customers, employees, Oracle." You summed it up very nicely. That's why employees hate working for Oracle. Hopefully Hurd, Safra and Larry see this post and do something about it.

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Post ID: @fhf+HG5k7Jz

Good editorial.

I can tell you that the same thing is happening in the other companies (HPE, DELL, etc..)

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Post ID: @sgs+HG5k7Jz

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