Thread regarding Chevron Corp. layoffs

-9ham: I see little difference.

-9vmd: Your just a jerk.

Good night folks, I am out of here. Time to hit the bar.

@9sdk, do not hurt the little old lady, but take the altar money. The church would just waste it anyway.

Clubbing little old ladies on their way to church for their money and a harmless tax evasion are like day and night, 9sdk. Bad argument on your part. My motto is to pay as little taxes as possible. As a matter of fact, I don't fuss to much if I'm overcharged for a service or product by $5, but when any government agency taxes me as little as 25 cents more than necessary, I demand a correction.

Yes I like to maximize my income, but stop short of clubbing little old ladies on their way to church to get their altar offerings. Call me crazy, but there are limits to my greed. For those who have none, in a civilization society, we have laws and punishments, which I support ... go figure?

To 9wiw, do you think every American citizen should pay maximum taxes? What exactly do you mean? Do you ever take a deduction (or more) when you file taxes? Aren't you lowering the taxes you pay by as much as possible? Have you ever received a tax refund? If so, then you should return all of it since you belive it is your duty to NOT avoid paying taxes. One, if not the most important founding causes of the American Revolution War was taxation without representation. You can go ahead and pay maximum taxes. Jeesh, what a moron.

"Go take your meds" ... Good idea, I do need a beer.

Go take your meds, 9wiw and wrap yourself up in the flag.

Thank you @9zwm. I couldn't have given the previous poster a better response.

I'm enshrining your post in the Chevron Corp Layoff Website Hall of Fame.

• 9qdt

"duty as an American"... You know nothing about duty or honor! I do agree, however, that if all the illegals were somehow rounded up and departed to the other side of the "wall" that Houston grind to a halt (if not also a good part of the rest of the economy). Therefore what we need is not a wall but rather big penalties for illegal employers.

That is funny, but true about the grass cutting crew. Every time you eat at a restaurant or get your car washed or use a lawn service, or a mid service, you are very likely paying a company that uses illegal immigrant labor and not having federal taxes collected. Every house in Houston that has a garage sale is keeping all the money and not reporting it as income. Every estate sale advertised is for cash only purchases. This income is probably only partially reported, if at all. To all the self-righteous, sanctimonious do-gooders posting here, should all of these people and businesses be charged with tax evasion? You are idiots. It would be great if I could find a cash business that would net me $1000 - $1200 a month. It is your duty as an American to pay as little in taxes as possible. Hell, all of the illegals do it and both political parties are tripping over each other to get their votes.

No difference at all in my book, slime is slime: True and though. I assume all your crews are illegals as well: working for no benefits. If I have the opportunity to sit in judgement of you with eleven other citizens down the road expect the max. I have no tolerance for sociopaths like yourself. Now let me guess, you also declare yourself a "Christian" and are voting for Trump ... that would fit the mold perfectly.

-8npv, your opinion is yours alone. Your two high school fast-and-furious friends committed the wrong crimes. Burglary and robbery is frowned upon, even by me. If anyone tries that stunt on me or my property, they best be warned I have a concealed carry permit and a good shot too. As for having a predominantly cash business and providing a needed service to the wanting public, is a whole different thing. Nothing like your two former friends did. If I choose to keep most of the proceeds undeclared from the IRS, I don't see it as criminal. After all the taxes I've paid the government, it's time to take some of it back and settle the score. I know I have to be careful. The IRS doesn't like competition. But I'm small fish to them and I know how to fly below the radar. Who knows if one of my grass cutting crews are mowing your lawn. If so, thanks for your contribution. See you next week.

-8kkd & -8jrg: You guys are hardly alone...sentiments shared by all the 2 bit crooks and criminals out there. I hung with a fast crowd in high school (30 years ago now). One guy got busted for armed robbery of my local 3.2 beer bar and another for home burglary of someone in my neighborhood. I asked both "what were you thinking", there was so little payout possible in both cases even if they had no morals. They both expressed similar sentiments to you two: they were wronged, they were owed, they wanted the money more than the other guy. You both have my contempt...they at least were poor (not in the 5%! Like you a--holes).

To 8jrg, I am totally with you. I am 62, laid off this year after only 4 years with Chevron. I have seen the federal government change over the last 40 years in ways that people born in 80's or later can never comprehend. It is a massive domestic spy agency that is continually trying to control our lives and diminishin our freedoms. Look at the DHS and TSA and Obamacare tax penalty (shared responsibility) and PC multiculturalism, LGBT transgender everywhere forced upon schools, universities, corporate America. CCTV cameras everywhere, thought and speech control through 'hate crime' legislation, tax payer benefits handed out to unlimited illegal immigrants and so-called refugees from mainly Muslim nations who want to subvert our laws to comply with their beliefs. I don't give a damn to anyone who is offended - you can go to hell. I would do whatever I could to make money while paying only partial or no taxes. I have given, through taxes, my entire life and have never received any government handout. There are many out there who have similar thoughts. I could go on and on and defend everything I have stated. Making money without paying taxes at my age is like the line from Saving Private Ryan - 'You've earned it'.

-8rmv, that point you are making, that WE are all part of the same system in the United States used to be true. I think all that is changing rapidly. In the last 20 years, I've seen government growing in size and taking away or weakening citizen rights. Today, the individual citizen is an island. His government has divided our country up into groups and social classes, pitting us one against the other. There's very little WE can for now, as the politicians have bastardized the nation, corrupted everything, where one judge overrules another judge's decision. WE get from our government whatever the government wants to give us. They no longer represent us, the people. They rule this country now like some small dictatorships. Lots of us, in lunging myself, have lost faith in our government. I don't see most of my tax dollars going to benefit me and my community. I see my money going to bolster the government's power over us. So, that's my reason for not giving a damn anymore. I may be losing my job pretty soon. I've paid a whole lot more taxes than 95% of the citizens in this country. That's right, I'm in the top 5% of wage earners. If I'm booted from my job, I think I may do what this 61 year old man had the audacity to post here. I may start a few small cash businesses and fly below the government's radar to take back some of what was taken from me all my working years. A few tax-free dollars will be great and also restore to me some satisfaction of having stuck it to the man. Sorry if what I say offends you, but I hope you can relate.

@7zmu: The point is WE are all "the man" (at least those who are residents of the USA), so he is f---ing us! This idea that our government is an alien entity is bull**it. If you do not like how it is functioning then vote to change it, but your part of the same system and use the same roads and government services as everyone else.

Don't feed the troll. This idiot is posting the same thing on all of the threads.

@7aqr, do you only have a 3rd grade education? That 61 year old guy made it very clear in his initial post that his cash businesses were created just for that purpose - making cash money while evading taxes. That's his point; to stick it to the man. We all know the IRS doesn't like this kind of behavior and calls it illegal, but so what? It's a free country. Find another topic to latch onto. You're boring us already.

-7qbm, Thanks for identifying yourself as the tax-evading criminal or one condoning it. As one poster pointed out already, evading taxes in a criminal manner as the 61 yo is doing is not "making tax-free money", it is committing a felony. "Tax avoidance" through legal means is an entirely different matter.

"Any person who willfully attempts in any manner to evade or defeat any tax imposed by this title or the payment thereof shall, in addition to other penalties provided by law, be guilty of a felony and, upon conviction thereof, shall be fined not more than $100,000 ($500,000 in the case of a corporation), or imprisoned not more than 5 years, or both, together with the costs of prosecution"

That 61 year old guy is probably busy making tax free money. No time to waste here quipping with trolls.

Whatever happened to that 61 year-ol' asshurt loser who was digging the vault to live in with all his survivalist gear so he could sit in there and lick his wounds from being so asshurt from working at Chevron and having to pay taxes as a US citizen? Poor baby. He had to pay his share of taxes while at a well paying O&G job? Wow. Can't imagine how hard that life must have been. I wonder if he has run off to go campaign for Hillary? He could maybe use some democrap leech handouts, maybe get him out of the grass-cutting business that he had to get in to make ends meet..........

Try the thing George Castanza did on Seinfeld and make on of those cubby holes out of your sit stand. Place for magazine, coffee and a blanket. Should help pass the time.

@5cyr, it depends who you ask, as well as when or where you ask that question. Some will always say they are busy. Some will say they're busy some of the time. But if you ask a person who is possibly facing a layoff very soon, why should they be busy? They may try to appear busy and unphased, but honestly, they are only busy planning their best exit or spending their time saving their a$$. Wouldn't you?

Why is it that so many people have little to do and then I hear about other people in San Ramon and Houston with too much to do? Why so much inequity? Wasn't that way when I retired 2 years ago. Everyone at least seemed to be busy, although not all productively. Is it just bad management? Maybe this is the wrong place to ask, but does anyone know if a lot of people at other major oil companies are similarly under deployed? What a waste.

Christ, 5ikc. You just posted my secret to successful for the last 29 years.

Sorry you guys are bored, but I suspect things will pick up. Personally I am swamped, despite a major budget cut. Nearly half my group left, and strangely most without asking for a package... but rather just when the time was right for each individual. The result is more work planned than can be completed.

OP: one good way to kill time is to vary your day. Start off by spending your first half hour in the coffee room and perhaps getting a biscuit in the cafeteria. Then a trip to the bathroom and to the desk to check a couple emails. Then it's time to check your 401k balance. Back to the coffee room and from there , time to head back to the bathroom to eliminate that biscuit. Bring along a newspaper or magazine. You have time to kill. Now it's time to start thinking about lunch and check the stock market just in case it's time to buy or sell some stock in your 401k. Go ahead and meet with one of the finance advisors who keep calling you up. After lunch comes the power nap, some more stock research and go through some more emails, maybe sit in a meeting or two.... Next thing you know it's time to pack up and head home.

-4dyd: A rather clumsy attempt to fake post a slur against someone who does not share your love for Trump dude. In fact I am the one who implied below tax cheats were sociopaths, rather than the one digging the money pit.

4gxn, seems like you are a bit envious, eh? Statistics point to active minds, like the 61 year old daredevil, will live to 94. I think his plan to work his side businesses for 4 more years and skirting the IRS should be quite stimulating. Maybe this cat will outlive you and me both.

-4rgc, yes he's safe alright, except from his own twisted mind which is apparently saturated with fear and paranoia and motivating him to extreme acts in retirement. Poor guy. I almost feel sorry for him. So sad to be traumatized at such a late age in life. When you're 61, how long do you figure you have? 10-20 years tops? And half of that is in and out of hospitals and clinics. I don't understand why these guys let their minds go to jelly. I guess it's lack of exercise and staying inside stewing on everything that prompts you to the delusion that the government is out to get you and you need to dig a cave and hide. So sad. Poot lil. pathetic old POS douche-bag of a guy.

@4cih, I think the NSA and DHS are busy enough trying to tabs on shifty Ahmed and his band of cohorts. The IRS would however, be very interested in knowing the location of our ex-colleague who is digging a vault in his garage to stash his tax evading income. But without actually telling the IRS where he is, I don't think they'll lift a finger. The IRS is stretched to their limits and only chasing the big fish, and there are many of them. No, this guy seems to be keeping things small and under the radar. If he's careful, he'll be safe.

What happened to the old asshurt survivalist tax-evader individual digging a hole in his basement to live in with all his severance cash? That was a more interesting thread topic. I wonder if he will be keeping ammo and bomb-making supplies in there too? Sounds cool. he he he he. I bet the IRS would like to know about that idiot. Not to mention the NSA, Homeland security, etc. etc.

-4qpz, Seems to me like you're the one with all the insults, Let's keep it civil, guys & gals.

@IP7v0qB-4wqd, That post by -4wzw was more enlightening and thoughtful than you contributing absolutely nothing but a cowardly insult from the safety of your company PC that you are hiding behind like a little cowardly prick. .....

There's not much to do anymore, except wait around like turkeys for slaughter before Thanksgiving. The Pipeline company is going through a ROM right now. About 110 jobs eliminated and maybe only 10 to 20 of them will be offered a position after Seotember 1. The rest will be laid off.

Contribute something useful and intelligent, 4wzw.

If you guys think that this thread is 100% anonymous and there's no way for anyone to track you, I have some oceanfront property in Kansas to sell you. Please send me your SS and bank acct nos. so That I can transfer some funds to you for your transportation to come see it!

I suppose you're right, 4zse. Most people who cheat on their taxes ultimately get caught for staying in it too long, or being too greedy, or telling people (not anonymously), or slipping up and creating an accounting trail. All that aside, though, a smart person can get away with it.

It's interesting to note that ex chevroids hate tax frauds more than Chevron. If this situation is true and you know who the cheater is, turn him or her into the IRS. If you don't, no worries - somebody will at some point. It's a self-correcting problem.

Don't feed the troll anymore. I can dig the entrepreneur and his crafty plan to stick it to the man. Keep it up dude. I may follow in your footsteps if m laid off this year.