Look out Chevron, you may have to include Non-US Citizens in your next round of ROM's:
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2017-01-30/trump-s-next-move-on-immigration-to-hit-closer-to-home-for-tech
Imagine an America that gave job preference to it's citizens over non-citizens?
Nice rationale, ggmj. We Americans should accept lower pay and also assume the standard of living these Indians have? I don't think so.
I thought all the republicans were in favor of free markets. If someone from India will do the job for half your cost then the CEO has an obligation to shareholders (owners of the company) to keep costs low. Nothing is preventing you from accepting a lower salary, because free markets and stuff.
Don't worry about the corrupt law firms. Trump already has the Swedish terrorist walled off really for massacre at bowling green... jobs follow naturally after that. America will be great again, I mean really great!
I just viewed this YouTube video link posted in another thread. Watch it seated, because it will make your blood boil. Here we have I mmigration lawyers working with big business to shut out qualified American workers from obtaining a shot at good paying jobs. This is an example of why Trump's "America First" policy resonates so much will patriotic Americans. I'm forwarding this video to the heads of Dept of Labor and Dept Homeland Security.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TCbFEgFajGU
Good point, emks. It's welfare for at least half of them. The other half are incentivized and hired by big business to lower their payroll burden and increase profits. All at the expense of US Nationals who want work, but stand in line behind the influx of third world scum.
The problem is that much of the immigrants that come to the US today are coming for the free welfare benefits -- same reason they are immigrating to northwest Europe. 100 years ago the immigrants that came to this country didn't have these benefits because there was no welfare.
Since illegals have it so good I guess you are volunteering to trade places with them? Yeah... didn't think so, so shut your pie hole.
@9nap, "In God We Trust" was put on our coins in the 1860s and on paper bills in 1957. The Founding Fathers were very clear about separation of Church and State.
What other nation has on its currency "One nation under God"? Maybe Iran? As Reagan once said "If we ever forget that we are One Nation Under God, then we will be a nation gone under." It's our Christian roots that have made the United States the great nation that is. When we abandon our Christian roots, we can't expect to have the blessings of God on our nation anymore.
-9ygg, That's all well and good. But apart from the illegal immigrants, which is a problem if it's own, I see and have read of many cases where immigrants come here legally, but with the intent of taking advantage of our laws and rules, and no intent or willingness to assimilate into the American culture.
No problem with immigrants as long as they follow the laws and rules. They are part of our country. I think the problem is with the illegal immigrants who do not want to follow the laws and rules of our country.
@9zrx, A nation is defined by its language, borders and culture. We are fundamentally a nation built on immigration but we, through our laws and legally elected representatives in government, have the right to choose who we admit into our country.
@91vv, totally agree. America is most definitely a land of immigrants. The "alternative facts" history presented here by the Trump supporters is not supported by actual facts.
-9mrf: your the one sorely needing a history lesson. What percent of Americans trace there ancestry to the Mayflower vs those that came later to an "established society"? The facts are clear that the bulk of Americans came as part of a wave after wave of immigrants. The process has never been pretty either: each new influx vilified by those already here... the terrible Italians, the stupid Irish (of which I am a member)...and on and on. Recent Muslim arrivals are not even a "wave" by historical standards...although the influx of Hispanics could be considered as one. The underlying point however is your alt facts are simply wrong... we are a nation of immigrants!
America was not founded and is not a nation of "immigrants". America was founded by COLONISTS. There was no established society in America when the early settlers arrived for them to immigrate TO. That is an incorrect leftist claim and history doesn't support it unless you redefine immigration. (well they did it to marriage, I guess they can redefine anything)
That's tantamount to Michelle Obama claiming that the founders of America, the drafters of the Constitution were not born in "America" a falsehood. America had been an established society for over a hundred years and the majority of the signers were born in America, about 85%. You don't get to rewrite history and facts to fit your new political narrative, progressives. Keep trying, though. It shows how weak your real argument is, if you even have one.
5qsb , good point, that would be hard to enforce. so let's go ahead and invite and welcome all foreigners including those who believe that all westerners are the infidel, and should be annihilated, since you feel it would be such an inconvenience for them to give up their rugby preference.............
The previous poster nailed it. The whole intent is to have more and more "cheap labor" to increase corporate profits, all under the banner of diversity. They want us to be "diversified" right out of our jobs.
It's quite interesting to read many of the brainwashed liberal masses on this comment section. If you think H1B is about anything but cost you are nuts. It's not about quality, it's not about a shortage of STEM, it's about cheap labor. Just as illegal aliens have destroyed the construction industry as a job market for non-degreed Americans, H1Bs are eroding and destroying the middle class creating engineering and technical jobs.
You people have been swallowing the cult-like beliefs of corporate America and their diversity nonsense. Many of you will be "diversified" right out of a job.
America is becoming more iike any other "normal" high income country and has given up any pretense at exceptional ism. Maybe it's good, less hypocritical.
Immigrants form a lot of startup companies in America, so they add a lot of new economic value: http://www.nbcnews.com/news/latino/over-half-1-billion-startups-are-founded-immigrants-n544446
@6juc, "Diversity makes us strong"??? Ever since the disembarkation of William Bradford and the Mayflower Pilgrims who founded Plymouth Colony in 1620, ask the Native American Indians how diversity worked out for them.
Correction: America is a land of (good) immigrants and diversity (no longer) makes us strong.
America is a land of immigrants and diversity makes us strong.
What is un-American?
having leftist political views
supporting abortion rights
atheism
believing in climate change
wearing ethnic clothing
vegetarianism
Would you consider any of the above unamerican?
-5hdi, "assimilate" is meant as a blanket statement, not anything that will be up for routine inspection. Just like the oath one makes when they become a naturalized citizen (in this country and in almost all others); swear to uphold the flag, renounce former country citizenship, defend this country and bear arms if necessary, etc. Those are so-called blanket statements. No one is going to come inspect you, but given the circumstance the government does call on you to defend the country (in time of war) for example, and you refuse - then that's when you broke your oath and should be stripped of your American citizenship and deported. Applying the "assimilate" statement as a requirement to immigration is similar. No one will come to your house to inspect, but just start publicly railing against American customs and ways, demonstrating anti-American sentiment. That will get your picked up and deported. You see, no one is forcing anyone to come here or to stay. We should want to attract and hire the best people we can find, including foreigners with strong talents. But in return, they must want to come here freely and willingly to "assimilate" the best they can. Only them, their spouse and children. No other family members unless they too can economically contribute to making America a stronger nation.
creationism Guide to finding oil...put your money down and pray.
"Only if they assimilate"
How does that work and how will it be enforced? Will there be immigration raids to check if the person prefers rugby to football or Paulanar to Budweiser (which incidentally is not American?)
I think we should only take in the most brilliant foreigners we can find, but only if they want to come here to work for pay and to embrace this country's predominant customs and ways (assimilate). They will be able to bring their spouse and children, but NOT their parents, siblings, cousins, in-laws and other non-contributing relatives.
And Jerry Falwell Jr. leading task force on reforms to higher education. Maybe teaching of creationism will be part of core STEM curriculum.
Don't worry Ms DeVos is here to rescue our kids from ignorance!
Companies would be happy to hire American citizens if they have the necessary skills. For PhD graduates in STEM fields there are not enough U.S. citizens to fill the positions. With the Trump administration's war on science and facts, it's hard to see how more nAmericans will enter PhD programs in STEM fields.
I agree. We should deprive the world of Zenith televisions. And Folgers coffee. And Chevy Malibus. That would surely put the squeeze on them.
There should be an indefinite ban on foreign labor and foreign products in the US, home grown talent and American made products only. America should only produce and sell products to US consumers, why should the world enjoy American made quality products, let them produce their own oil, electronics, soda, coffee, etc. America First. Go Trump!
How many Chinese, Indian and Iranians did we have working the Manhattan Project? Or the Apollo missions? Sure ... Americans have in general become lazy in the last few decades as we've digressed to a Starbucks cultural and service industry economy ... but it's time to rejuvenate American pride and work ethic. I have a PETE PhD and was one of only 3 American's in a program of ~40 candidates. The ONLY reason more Americans were not in the program was because there was zero fiscal incentive from industry to get the degree when thousands of foreigners are lining up at the door as a means to get into the US. If the door closes there are plenty of highly intelligent Americans who can get off the couch.
3zmn, I grew up in a rural area of the country and hold three degrees, 2 of them post-graduate, but no PhD. In my 36 year career I have met and worked with many PhD's and also even more who learned the old-fashioned way, from hard work and experience in the field, degreed and non degreed. Not in all cases, but on an average, the non-PhD's were much more valuable, brighter, and competent. That's just a fact. The PhD itself is just a goal that was achieved, as are my degrees and not a measure of competence, effectiveness as an employee, success, or intelligence. Some PhD's pale alongside other degreed people, and non-degreed, in many cases. I may be what some people would call a "redneck", but not a racist as you seem to be. I suggest you refrain from posting if all that you have to contribute to the discussion is the unintelligible clueless gibberish that you just did.
We don't need no stinking science. The Great Pumpkin will fix everything.
Just more examples of regulation getting in the way of business. Good thing Trump is going to fix it.
Chevron lays off workers who are protected by age discrimination laws all the time and gets away with it. So why shouldn't they violate the Civil Rights Act of 1964, and support the US employees over the foreign workers.
Come on @2ogz. Do you really believe those disclosures made by all US businesses? They are mandated by the government is all, but businesses will do anything they like to and will find the craftiest of ways to circumvent them when necessary.
1dqm,
Cool dude! Bangkok for me, off to Midland for you.