Thread regarding Cisco Systems Inc. layoffs

I feel so sorry for you that you insist on trying to personally insult the sincere people who are posting on this site.

If you were able to comprehend what was already written here, you would have realized that this thread started when someone copied a reply from a previous post and pasted it out of context.

Do you actually work at Cisco? Have you ever worked at Cisco?

Your posts state that the people who are providing the facts about their own experiences have an overblown perception of their own worth. How dare you?!

Thank you for proving again you can't read. Have a five year old read then explain this quote to you:

I appreciate the need to vent but too many new and irrelevant threads are quickly reducing the usefulness of this site.

There are multiple existing threads for every permutation of {liking|hating} {old|young|white|Indian|...} people. Add "me too" with your personal experience attached to each existing thread that applies rather than creating a long list of new threads. People who use the "Active" ordering will see your posts.

I can see that you are missing the point again, and the fact that you insulted me personally confirms that you are lacking in compassion. This is a site about Cisco layoffs. The original poster is a CCIE who had just worked many Sundays in a row because he or she had been asked to do so by management. This person was laid off a few days ago and was concerned about their future. I was sharing my own experience in which I received a low bonus even though I was doing well in my job.

Your posts state that the people who are providing the facts about their own experiences have an overblown perception of their own worth. How dare you?!

Cisco was a once great company that missed market transitions, primarily because they did not listen to the talent they already had in house. It is sad.

Please stop making assumptions and try to become a compassionate person. This is your life.

The fact that you made incorrect assumptions about my skills and those of others who have faced discrimination just shines the light on your own ignorance and lack of compassion.

At the time I didn't say anything about you specifically but now I can say you have poor reading comprehension. This is just one of dozens of posts complaining about the list of perceived grievances going well beyond just {old} and the use of the plural "posts" along with that larger list clearly referred to the larger collective.

If you'd been an employee, customer and shareholder and were dragged into cleanup teams where the fix to development costs were worse than 20:1 you'd develop a well informed lack of compassion for the people who wasted employees' time and the customers' and shareholders' money. When management from VPs on down were saying "we know quality is getting progressively worse but we have to keep making the same mistakes [forever] until every problem is fixed, then we can look at how to improve things" and engineering really did keep making the same major mistakes they're in a realm of insanity that most companies couldn't survive and it appears that cost is finally catching up with Cisco.

Age discrimination is illegal.

I've seen rampant age discrimination against the old and the young my entire baby booming life. As has been noted in many threads, if you file a claim expect every company which does a background check to toss your application.

People get upset when they are told they are doing a great job, and are valued...only to find out months later that they were being tricked.

The quality metrics speak for themselves. I've seen a rare few individuals do some awesome things but in aggregate they've been totally drowned out. Even if your manager loves you any of the management above them can still kick you, your team and your manager to the curb if they have other favorites to protect. The same goes for promotions where people who have cost the company tens of millions in bad decisions still get the win or bonuses where a weak manager just won't have much of a pool to spread around to their reports. Most of these political problems occur everywhere, it's just a matter of degree.

@mra - I was the one who wrote this originally, and it was in response to someone who was just laid off and was concerned about their future. Somebody else copied/pasted my message to create a new thread.

The fact that you made incorrect assumptions about my skills and those of others who have faced discrimination just shines the light on your own ignorance and lack of compassion.

Age discrimination is illegal. People get upset when they are told they are doing a great job, and are valued...only to find out months later that they were being tricked. I quit as soon as I discovered that the company was having such financial difficulties that they couldn't keep up their end of the People Deal.

My current company seems to think I'm valuable. They're correct!

@mra - I was the one who wrote this originally, and it was in response to someone who was just laid off and was concerned about their future. Somebody else copied/pasted my message to create a new thread.

The fact that you made incorrect assumptions about my skills and those of others who have faced discrimination just shines the light on your own ignorance and lack of compassion.

Age discrimination is illegal. People get upset when they are told they are doing a great job, and are valued...only to find out months later that they were being tricked. I quit as soon as I discovered that the company was having such financial difficulties that they couldn't keep up their end of the People Deal.

I hope you eventually become a better person.

Looks like the LR rounds are rolling again. Starting to get pings on folks affected. Of course they are 50+. In the mean time, new requisitions simultaneously post on external Cisco job board. Soylent Green.

purpose, needle haystack. Too much chaff to find the wheat(solid bits of information)

There is no wheat here. The "people who are {old|young|male|female|white|Indian|geniuses|...} are being discriminated against" posts start with some facts (the various threads here clearly show ageism, s-xism and racism are practiced at the Olympic level and far more people think they are good than actually are) and ramble off into a sad cry of insecurity. The same goes for any post that asks "are there going to be layoffs this quarter?" The answer is always "yes." I appreciate the need to vent but too many new and irrelevant threads are quickly reducing the usefulness of this site.

purpose, needle haystack. Too much chaff to find the wheat(solid bits of information)

Agreed 100%.

Makes the validity of the content seem like just some obscure psychological experiment or phishing / source IP tracking manifesto attempt.

What's the purpose for the regurgitation of the prior content?

It would be much better if the Cut and Paste culture stopped creating new threads with out of context replies from existing threads.