Thread regarding Sabre Holdings layoffs

27% of entire company?

The 27% layoff cannot be 27% of the entire company because that is like 2300 people. If that layoff is most for ( like14%) expensive DFW people then that would mean to be lay off about half the entire of DFW peoples.

If that is plan then it is game over for Sabre very simple. If farmer prune that much from trunk of a tree he be pruning off many other green branches also and it will kill the entire tree. MVD, KRK, BLR cannot function without domain knowledge of DFW. There will not be enough domain knowledge left for Sabre to function for more than a few months and Sabre will crumble and die.

If this really is plan then sounds like the Stephen Elop style Nokia Trojan Horse has infiltrated Sabre at the top like he was rumoured to have done for MS. If so is Sabre being set up for an Amadeus buyout like how MS bought Nokia once it was worthless?

Even lay off 27% of DFW will be catastrophy. Are 600 people dead wood in DFW? There is dead wood but there is also much domain knowledge and cannot be hired, not in DFW and not anywhere else in the world for any amount of money, once they gone they gone. You cannot move that domain knowledge to a cheap shore in 6 months of 12 months. There are also teams that do not have enough people and are already refuse new work and can not get the work they have done now. When Sabre can not support the customer they will leave.

This can not be true.

Good overview by @OdwiDtu-4lee on the 27 percent layoff at Sabre.

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@OjJxqko-7esz reinforces the argument. What the actual hell were you even saying in that rant? Master one language, forget the other 3.

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Post ID: @7uwu+OjJxqko

It is sad to see comments such as we Don, t understand their English and so on. Certainly knowledge is key component bit has ever this type of Dfw employee think that despite less Costa believe me that for th the same job you do we are paid a third if lucky as a start point we support more than a market due to the simple detail of being bilingual? Are you aware that customers were gained due to this? So basically that English you may pretend not to understand is most likely what is paying your salary. And by the way I am not Pakistani or Indian, I am a sabre employee since 2005 and I do speak three languages and understand a fourth one.

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Post ID: @7esz+OjJxqko

Sorry my friend, USA has demonized science and engineering after Nam...

https://mobile.nytimes.com/2012/01/22/business/apple-america-and-a-squeezed-middle-class.html?pagewanted=all&referer=

So we need our friends from other countries...

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Post ID: @6zqh+OjJxqko

@KeepitintheUSA - successful companies like Google and Facebook have offices in many countries so this is clearly not the issue here.

Can you remind us where Sabre senior leadership is located? Hint: it's not BLR or KRK.

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Post ID: @6uaq+OjJxqko

The layoffs are coming, for certain, on July 31st. One can only hope that the majority of the cuts will be made where they should be made - in the offshore offices that are filled with workers who are clueless about the industry. Globalization of the workforce is much of the reason that Sabre in this position. The only way to solve it is to return to staffing the majority of positions in the U.S. where time zone differences and language barriers don't play such a huge role in impacting productivity. I must say, though, that even the U.S. offices are negatively impacted by the huge number of Indian and Pakistani workers Sabre has. Ask any U.S. born worker at Sabre (or at other companies for that matter) how much difficulty they have communicating with these ESL workers and you'll get the same response everywhere - we can't UNDERSTAND them!! And documents written by the ESL staff are terrible. I'm highly embarrassed to see the awful documents that are shared with customers. It makes Sabre look and sound like a fifth rate company. I don't intend to be cruel, but let the layoffs begin and let them start in KRK and BLR!! We need to circle the wagons and be a U.S. company with global customers, not so many global workers!

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Post ID: @6aib+OjJxqko

12-14 people in team to manage means spending approx. 1.5h daily only on meeting them on 1-2-1 (formal or informal, it does not matter) assuming weekly 1-2-1 meetings. Then you need to talk to entire team what also costs a time. If you focus on people, try to act as servant leader for them you need a time to do it, to meet with them and to get know them. But this is not waste of time. It helps a lot to build the excellent team able to overcome many difficult situations e.g. currently faced by Sabre employees. It builds commitment and ownership. Try to do it with 20+ team assuming you also need to deal with projects, corpo bureaucracy, unexpected issues etc. You will have to sacrifice something, either people or the other stuff.

One of problems in Sabre is with internal culture - lack of respect to people on each level, what in turn produces many other consequences and unwanted behaviors. Management in general does not undestand that top-bottom approach, with attitude "manager is always right" does not work. All companies defending against changing such a culture finally go into big troubles. E.g. it happened to two big American Battleships of Business - Motorola and GMC. Now it bites Sabre from inside.

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Post ID: @5lnq+OjJxqko

What they said is true. I have been in teams over the years with 20+ team members with great managers who worked with us and we had positive teamwork. There are so many people with just a handful of direct reports.

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Post ID: @5erd+OjJxqko

There is no reason you can't manage 20 people under you.

b---s---!

If you really want to work WITH your direct reports, help them in everyday work, then 12 people is max size of team you can manage.

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Post ID: @4ryw+OjJxqko

We have too many layers of Directors, Manager, and Supervisors. Many just have 3 to 8 people working for them. Cut out some of these middle men. There is no reason you can't manage 20 people under you. All the tedious activities like sick time and PTO are handled online and even DPMs are very automated as well as expense reports. Also need more hands on managers who are willing to get their hands dirty and actually help with the workloads.

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Post ID: @4ehg+OjJxqko

Yes, it will be close to 27% - and it's across the board. The company has to reduce costs in order to stay in business. Amadeus has so much cash-flow that they can buy all of Sabre business and still make a profit.

P&T will lose almost all of its SVP and VPs (Surj isn't impacted since he's out on medical leave and Hani is focused on delivering PMS 4). Finance, Procurement and HR will lose 20+%. TN will cut similar amounts and AS has been asked to cut deep too - but Dave Shirk, the new President, has been resisting until he has more information and asks the right questions (good for him!).

That all said, Sabre still doesn't have a vision. Menke has been in office for close to 8 months and still hasn't described where the company should be going. One has to question if he knows. If you look at his history, it's all been 'managing the widgets' not thinking strategically about where to take a company long-term. Everyone on the eTeam recognizes that the stock won't come back for many years (past their contracts) and that's where their real money comes from - so expect them to bolt in the next 12-18 months.

It's a sinking ship for 18-24 months - it's too bad, but hopefully someone good buys them at a good price.

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Post ID: @4ovx+OjJxqko

Amadeus can't buy it due to HSR anti-competitive regulations. But Farelogix could...

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Post ID: @4zgu+OjJxqko

AS has many redundant products. Booking for Agents, Companies, Affiliate Agencies, End Users and Check-in and many more. All have lots of common features, they can be consolidated. Then there are many small products which have their own teams. Each one of it has their own devs, QAs, lots managers, PM, MSM, activation and some dummy teams. And 20+ % can easily be sent home.

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Post ID: @vki+OjJxqko

Makese sense:

If so is Sabre being set up for an Amadeus buyout like how MS bought Nokia once it was worthless?

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Post ID: @rie+OjJxqko

In the long run long, everyone is replaceable, and knowledge is reacquire. Products are sold and sunset while new ones are created.

You will be surprise with the amount of domain knowledge already out of DFW, if you just open your eyes

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