Just when you thought you were safe, there are more cuts being planned for ES's org for early next year. Target groups include a significant hit for the linux groups and the rest of zfssa. It's not clear whether the pillar org will get a trim.
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Wouldn't they need the Linux team to help build the underlying cloud underpinnings?
No, the cloud team is using KVM, not the Xen-based virtualization from the Linux team.
Keep Pillar POS and axe ZFSSA. Good luck, Pillar has to be the joke of the disk storage world. Once a POS always a POS.
Death by a thousand cuts. Not in a "cloud" org? Get your resume updated and start looking, people. In a "cloud" org? Take a look at the competition - they are WAY ahead of us. Maybe consider a move.
I know..if you have been here a long time, it's hard to do. After the 9/1 RIF and the way it was executed...I've decided I need to jump ship ASAP. Even if business conditions dictated the need to kill M9 and Solaris, the way in which they did this last RIF was downright cold. I don't care if it was a large amount of people - you don't do it via concall, recorded or not.
"Wouldn't they need the Linux team to help build the underlying cloud underpinnings?"
What makes you think they use Oracle Linux to build the cloud? I think you need to do some research. I've always heard that answer is a big "no".
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Every oracle product best runs on oracle Linux. Oracle Linux itself has a lot of customers and an annual ReV around 1B. Many on premise solutions are based on oracle Linux.
You guys are sometime talking without proper knowledge. Best of luck to you!!
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Clearly, you are from sales team.
You are trying to sell something you even don't understand.
That tells a lot.
Poor guy ...
"You guys are sometime talking without proper knowledge. Best of luck to you!!"
Seems it also applies to you.
you should start to update your resume.
"Every oracle product best runs on oracle Linux."
That's not really true.
Oracle Linux is very similar to Red Hat as it is based on the same kernel version (as for CentOS) and same distribution.
The only difference is that oracle distribution has a specific rpm package for rdbms: oracle-rdbms-server-12cR1-preinstall.x86_64 available in the YUM repository.
This contains mandatory packages needed for the rdbms and and some specific kernel settings.
But you can manually install the RPMs from the rdbms and even customize the Red Hat Installation using a kickstart file that will help automatize and standardize the OS installation.
You can do exactly the same with oel and RedHat.
In fact my customers mainly use Red Hat on bare metal servers and use vmware for the virtualization.
They don't care about OEL (OS) and OVM (virtialization).
They prefer Red Hat and vmware.
And most of the customers complain about the level of professionalism of the oracle employees from Global Customer Services because GCS doesn't even understand the level of complexity of the cst environment. They don't understand what a load balancing or a firewall is.
In fact they are really pissed off.
I'm a former oracle employee who left before being layed off.
And my cst are really happy to be able to talk real professionals directly, and not to remote romanian or indians guys.
And it is really about skills and knowledge, not country location.
The linux groups have too many people for what they need to achieve especially for internal cloud use. Most of the value is created by red hat with oracle riding on their coat tails.
I thought they were moving all of the Mitac business to foxconn and laying off all the buyers that work at mitac. Does anyone you know when that will be?
Cutting jobs from Linux team means Oracle is getting rid of operating systems. Seems Joke to me. Oracle would not do that. At least an OS is needed for cloud to build its model. Or oracle will make a contract with red hat, possible? So this news seems funny to me.
"Wouldn't they need the Linux team to help build the underlying cloud underpinnings?"
Well, they think they can keep releasing new versions of Solaris with the skeleton crew that is left,
I thought zfssa went through most of its cuts already. Another one planned for the start of Jan. Jeez !!
Wouldn't they need the Linux team to help build the underlying cloud underpinnings?
@Pitj38V-uze Anything == 100% cut?
Director here. Anything dealing with tape drives and library will be cut in the middle of November. Happy Thanksgiving.
ES = Ed Screven
Isn't 40 years a long time to have already made that run ?
It doesn't matter how much revenue an on-prem product or service pulls in. It doesn't matter how much our cloud uses that technology internally. No team without "cloud" in their name is safe. Look at what happened to middle ware. Our entire SaaS is built on it, but they have been cutting those groups to shreds. The problem is, TK/LE and the rest of the clowns upstairs don't understand that PDIT and FA dev can't do ANYTHING without a TON of handholding from the developers who made the on-prem software that they use. Oracle has been RIFing the only people who can solve even the most basic technical problems in their cloud. This is why we have SO many customer outages.
Just because Oracle needs its Linux team to succeed does not mean that team is safe. LE and co have little interest in seeing Oracle succeed long term. They are just in it to make a fast buck and then run.
Every oracle product best runs on oracle Linux. Oracle Linux itself has a lot of customers and an annual ReV around 1B. Many on premise solutions are based on oracle Linux.
You guys are sometime talking without proper knowledge. Best of luck to you!!
You can expect Linux group eventually will do a layoff. nobody uses Oracle Linux except Oracle themselves.
What is ES ?
It will be foolish to trust ES and his recent conference call. The entire management has no plans for hw. Anyone in the management chain trying to convince otherwise is trying to save himself/herself from getting fired.
I thought it was the new Oracle RIFbot because the AI was incapable of answering any questions and it had no heart or guts.
It was a prerecorded call. So personable.
Wonder if he'll deliver the news on a < 5 minute conference call for those cuts, too?