Thread regarding Humana Inc. layoffs

Why would PTguy lie about kindred?

When asked in the town hall about the kindred lawsuit PTguy lied and said he didn't know anything about it. If he honestly didn't know that's tantamount to incompetence. In his role, that should be something at the top of his list. If he did know, then he was caught out in an obvious lie. I was willing to give the guy the benefit of the doubt before, but not now. He's either completely incompetent or a total liar. Which is it? Is he unfit for the job or just untrustworthy?

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Post ID: @OP+RJtf5qL

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Most definitely BS on the story! This thread is thoroughly entertaining. Thanks for the laugh RN Guy!

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Post ID: @4pwz+RJtf5qL

Hey RN Guy/Gal. They called BS on your story. This thread is funny as sheet.

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Post ID: @4fmx+RJtf5qL

There was a number you could have called to hear the meeting. Kinda silly for a conference call to listen thru a teammates computer. It took several of you to brainstorm that? God help our members.

Cellphone-gate is awesome. Kudos to coined that term!

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Post ID: @3llv+RJtf5qL

So, yeah, you did a conference call with each other as asked in a prior post. Rather than admit thats what you did, you insulted the poster's intelligence. Why? The poster acknowledged thats the only way you could hear. Why the attempt to obfuscate? That's shady. BTW,that, quite frankly, is the oddest thing I have ever heard! Why the hell would you do a conference call to listen to the town hall? A calls B who calls C etc.

I am loving cell phone-gate. It's very entertaining to watch you try to dig yourself out. I bet you are overly qualified to dig! We demand you release cell phone records...haha!

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Post ID: @3tuh+RJtf5qL

I was on the phone at the Town Hall meeting. I did not hear laughing, coughing, or tooting! Sorry, this thread is too funny! I did post in another thread that I could hear other associates talking and chewing prior to the start of the meeting. Once it started, I did not hear any associate's voices or sounds.

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Post ID: @3ufy+RJtf5qL

@RJtf5qL-3lyz My last post to you since you cannot understand anything. Nurse a calls nurse b (cell), nurse b calls nurse c and has both b and c together on the cell. Nurse c has her computer volume up so we can hear the meeting over her computer. There was also another nurse who called nurse c on her work phone since nurse c was the only one in our 'group' who could hear the meeting over her computer. So... I was nurse b and nurse a and c I could hear. Nurse d... who was on nurse c's work phone was placed on speaker as well. I pray for you on your next journey. Feels like I'm teaching a first grader how a phone conference works.

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Post ID: @3gtr+RJtf5qL

@RJtf5qL-3qif What the heck is wrong with you dude? Calm the heck down! It's obvious your story was blown out of the water. Whether you approve of the new guy or not, and I won't refer to him by his credentials like you....his former profession has no relevance since he has held several exec positions since then. He answered the question appropriately. Seriously, get over your overly inflated image of yourself. I pray my dad doesn't get you as his HCM! WOW!

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Post ID: @3ren+RJtf5qL

No, my darling, unless you were all sitting in the same room on your cell phones, you would not have any way whatsoever to hear each other. Should I draw a diagram of how this works so you stop looking the fool? You don't think they mute all calls, including cell phones so you don't hear one another? Did you hear my teammate's coughing fit, she used her cell? Apparently she coughed for about 20 minutes straight. Or did you all rush to one house to call in on your individual cell phones and one on the computer? Plain and simple, you were caught in a lie saying you heard others laugh as your meager attempt to make it appear you have a very small army on your side. Wonder why You only heard your teammates laugh and how You could identify them out of all the people using their cellphones. You continue to use foul language to deflect Your ignorance. If you have the education and experience to run this company, then surely you know how the phone systems work when you call in. Your delusions of grandeur and your hallucinations worry me. A combination of therapy and a good med regime can help. I hate to think you are working with members in this state. I urge you to at least reach out to EAP. If anything they can help you work through your immense anger and can refer you for treatment. Peace be with you!

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Post ID: @3lyz+RJtf5qL

@RJtf5qL-3hhn and you my dear should take your dose of haloperidol. You keep your pom poms in your hands... lol. You have some sort of short term memory loss honey... seriously. Read the post again... there were 3 of us one our cell phones while the other HCM used her computer bc of the issues they were having with the live web. Do you need instructions on how to wipe your A@" too? Seriously! There is something wrong with YOU. But let's check on each other come April. You just keep cheering yourself on. 💋✌🏼Rah rah

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Post ID: @3ovy+RJtf5qL

Hey lunatic, do you really think you are talking to KA? That is the best thing i have read all night! You are deranged. I'm just another HCM calling BS! WHen did I compare our new leader to Bill Gates? I simply said you seem to feel YOU are on that level. Oh, but thats right, you think I'm actually KA. Bless your little heart, you've become delusional in your fit of rage. I didn't cut and paste anything so once again you look like a fool using that as some kind of bizarre insult. As for hearing your teammates chuckle, do you all work in the same home office or do you oddly make a conference call to listen to the meeting, which by the way is broadcasted on the computer? I recommend you take a break from this site or up your dosage of Risperdal. I dont think you have reached the therapeutic level yet,but kudos for trying! Oh and by the way, any one of our leaders will leave with a golden parachute and won't need to worry about finding another job. Their severance package will make yours look like a small tip. Even if he lasts 2 years, he will be able to laugh his way to the bank with a wheel barrow full of cash and stock.

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Post ID: @3hhn+RJtf5qL

@RJtf5qL-2wzi Obviously you know how to copy and paste but comprehending what you read is a different story lol. Listen up K... we were all on mute so you wouldn't hear any of my team mates. The chuckling was amongst my team mates. And no... I never said anything about being at the level of Bill Gates a$$ wipe. And for you to compare yourself to BG is definitely worth the chuckle... not even close. You shouldn't be so worried about what others think at your level. Besides... you may last a little longer than us HCM's... but I give you max 2 years... and then your time will be up too 😘. Good luck to you 😂

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Post ID: @3qif+RJtf5qL

@RJtf5qL-1iqb. I just rewatched the town hall meeting. For one, no chuckling could be heard from anyone when KA spoke. 2.I think he did a great job of handling the question. He was right on with his answer that this is typical in these types of mergers. I am quite positive he is not at liberty to extrapolate on the lawsuit and handled the question with finess. But since you are even more business savy than Bill Gates you will find fault with everything. You seem happiest complaining

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Post ID: @2wzi+RJtf5qL

Everyone is so tough when anonymous. On both sides. No kindness to be found.

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Post ID: @1wuk+RJtf5qL

: @RJtf5qL-1xko At least we all know you can copy and paste 😂. You have a beautiful day sweetie... now you go sit on your butt and smile and dial. You are not worth my time. I'm not sharing my credentials... this are anonymous postings. I'm keeping it that way. I want my severance in April, don't you?

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Post ID: @1iqb+RJtf5qL

@RJtf5qL-1xqs. Sounds like someone feels threatened! That is usually the only reason why people have to proclaim their credentials trumps others but don't ever show them. I'm grabbing the popcorn, this is comic gold!

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Post ID: @1rvb+RJtf5qL

@RJtf5qL-1xqs. I'm far from a dude. This is what you wrote: In fact, we had a few teammates having to listen on the cell phones Bc their computer systems wouldn't work. You could hear the few HCMs chuckling when he got stuck on the subject and couldn't get himself out.

Still trying to figure out how you could hear other HCMs chuckling. Do you possess dog ears along with your worthless credentials...the credentials that supposedly qualify you to run Humana, but here you sit on your butt all day talking on the phone and b--ching on social media sites that you are so much smarter. Yeah, we buy that. Wink wink nudge nudge.

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Post ID: @1xko+RJtf5qL

I signed onto the town hall meeting a little early. What associates don't realize is that you are not muted until the meeting starts. I heard people talking in the background, chewing loudly, one associate asked her significant other to switch over the laundry. When the meeting started the audio was horrible. Luckily, another associate gave an alternate number to call. I was on a cell and could not use my computer.

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Post ID: @1kpe+RJtf5qL

I have read most of the posts on this site for the past year because as an employee of HAH I have seen tons of layoffs and firings of great employees. I can’t tell you why because nobody talks about the elephant in the room. I have seen great nurses and coaches come and go. It’s part of working for a corporate company but can say HAH is extremely disfunctional and with new leaders who can never lead because there is no direct direction very bipolar unstable environment get out while you can if your lucky get the severance package

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Post ID: @1rwq+RJtf5qL

: @RJtf5qL-xlq... calm down dude. You shouldn't be threatened by my intelligence, title, or experience. YES.... I could do his job. And you need to put your glasses on... I wrote that some of my teammates could not hear the audio over their computers to one was on a cell and the other was on the work phone while listening to my team mates audio over her computer. Take a chill pill K. Go fly your little airplane, or your matchbox helicopter... you're all the same dude. You don't want to know my credentials. You have no idea. And you will never find out.

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Post ID: @1xqs+RJtf5qL

Now there is an intelligent comment!

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Post ID: @1emc+RJtf5qL

Because he is a Dickwad.

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Post ID: @1umv+RJtf5qL

So now you are trying to convince us that YOU could hear HCMs giggling while listening in on their cell phones. You just showed what a crackpot you are. I love that you claim your credentials before HCM would qualify you for KAs job. Your posts prove that you wouldn't even have the ability to run a lemonade stand, your credentials are meaningless! Thank you and good night!

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Post ID: @1cno+RJtf5qL

It wasn't the technical part. We ALL heard it. In fact, we had a few teammates having to listen on the cell phones Bc their computer systems wouldn't work. You could hear the few HCMs chuckling when he got stuck on the subject and couldn't get himself out. And I'm the bully? Let's talk about workplace incivility! I could do your job. If I have you my title before the HCM it would give me away... so yes... I could do your job. I don't want it bc of scumbags like you thinking about $$$$$ and not our members. Shame on you guy...

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Post ID: @1jtr+RJtf5qL

What does his stutter have to do with his job? Did you stop to think it may have been sound buffering issues with the computer and phones, or do you want to keep making an asshat of yourself by showing what a cruel, bullying person you are?

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Post ID: @gko+RJtf5qL

Here we go with the troll BS. You need new material! So the man is incompetent because you didn't like his answer to one question. Let's see you do his job.

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Post ID: @lrp+RJtf5qL

: @RJtf5qL-xlq: because it's probably a troll or even himself. I was the original poster a few weeks ago "Thanks Mr. PT"... don't think he liked what I said. Lol. He's pure business. I started chuckling when he was st st st st stuttering answering certain questions. He is not competent....He stated in meeting the news release was "this am"... no it wasn't. It was out 24 hours.

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Post ID: @fll+RJtf5qL

On behalf of the OP, this is relevant. It’s in the news, and we can all read. Certainly Aetna was doing some questionable stuff in the case of the merger, and we found out later they blatantly lied. There is no way he doesn’t know and should have been prepared to address. All these guys must’ve gone to the Trump School of Alternative Facts.

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Post ID: @yrl+RJtf5qL

@RJtf5qL-oml I am 48, weird question, why is that relevant?

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Post ID: @xlq+RJtf5qL

I'm sure it caught him off guard.

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Post ID: @zgn+RJtf5qL

Sounds like he did not expect the question and did not the usual non answer response.

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Post ID: @vqh+RJtf5qL

@RJtf5qL-hij exactly. I'm the OP and my whole point was that it ruined any chances of believing him about other things when he says something that is blatently a lie. I was giving him the benefit of the doubt, as I said. I know he inherited most of this mess from MF and I wasn't going to blame him for things that were set in motion before he started. But to just lie? About something that's not even worth lying about? That shows a lack of respect for us as employees. And if he really didn't know...well, he's not doing his job at all then.

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Post ID: @adu+RJtf5qL

You people need to find better things to do! How old are you guys?

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Post ID: @oml+RJtf5qL

We are working! What’s the AUX code for posting on the layoff site?

Is there a special AUX code for getting triggered every time someone complains about something?

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Post ID: @str+RJtf5qL

Troll here.....I think the OP just wants some honesty since we are all adults. If he was not at liberty to say because it is a lawsuit, how about "I am not at liberty to say because there is pending litigation, but as soon as we can discuss it we will share information with you all" but to say "I don't know anything about it" is ridiculous and shows that he thinks his staff is dumb and he can say whatever he wants to dismiss the question. It is like a pat on the head and him saying "don't worry your pretty little head about it darling", that is what it feels like. Yea, it is just one question but one comment can start to show someone's professional approach. When I heard him say it, I rolled my eyes and laughed and said "duhhhhh, if you don't know anything about it, you might want to make some calls after this meeting my man, there is some s*** going down"

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Post ID: @hij+RJtf5qL

He is a liar. He's so far on the spin train that he doesn't even know when something should be smoothed over and when to be honest. Transparency my foot.

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Post ID: @hma+RJtf5qL

@oxc THANK YOU! I was going to point out the same thing. It's really sad the number of people who come on here and verbally abuse people for saying anything negative. I've wondered if it was an HR person trying to discredit any negative points but it's probably just one bored person who likes to stir the pot. OP even said they were willing to give KA the benefit of the doubt until he ruined his credibilty with that obvious lie. I didn't read any kind of conspiracy theory in it just a statement that it's an obvious lie and therefore he cannot be trusted.

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Post ID: @hfg+RJtf5qL

Not a girl .

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Post ID: @oew+RJtf5qL

I wondered how long before someone would bring out the troll word. We are just not allowed to dissent. We must fall in line with their wacky theories of evil and doom! I have come to realize that the there are probably only 2-3 people who post time and time again with their complaints, conspiracy theories and down right rude negative comments. I believe there are far more of us positive people than they would like people to believe. It kills their narrative and slows down their doomsday train! I have $5 on the next post calling me names or claiming I am management. Oh honey, management ain't got time for your drivel! I have time because I was impacted. Just stopping by for a sec during my job search. This site gives me my laughs for the day. It's like watching a bunch of catty teenage girls in the cafeteria!

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Post ID: @amf+RJtf5qL

Quit whining about everything and work. HCM RN here.

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Post ID: @qpe+RJtf5qL

Wow, the troll is working overtime this morning! I love it when someone comments back to back trying to make it look like multiple people agreeing with them, lol

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Post ID: @oxc+RJtf5qL

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