Thread regarding Xerox Corp. layoffs

I heard 600 on 12/13, but not sure if regional or global. I am in XIM and have not been hearing much noise like we usually do when these are coming. Of course that could just mean I am on the list.

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On #3, you are correct that the NY WARN notice regs are a bit vague, though it has more to do with a company's legal structure with respect to its subsidiaries versus physical locations. Xerox is legally an old, legally complex organization. For example, you would need an army of lawyers to figure out how PARC fits into Xerox. I heard from folks that Xerox's new lawyers, many of whom are from the Icahn team, were trying to take advantage of these loopholes by spreading-out layoffs across multiple legal entities in order to avoid WARN notices.

Also, unless it is part of a Union contract or individual employment offers, severance and direct continuation of health insurance coverage (versus indirect, which is COBRA) is not legally required. For individuals, severance and health insurance offers can usually be changed with proper notification. To eliminate such offers from the Unionized folks, it would have to be negotiated out at the next collective bargaining discussion.

The same folks tried doing the same thing within Xerox Europe, which turned into a comedy as they refused to understand that European and not US law applied and European law typically favors employees over employers. No matter how many ways they tried to spin-it, the answer was always the same - severance and associated benefits are legally required and protected. It's why IRIF's for Xerox have been fewer and slower as the short-term costs for layoffs in Europe are very high and short-term costs are exactly what they are trying to avoid.

Recent observations in Monroe County is that NY Labor Department determines location; not company.

Recently residents have contacted the NYS Labor Department when they were not included in a warn notice and work in Monroe county ( not on an official company site) and Labor department ruling was location is Monroe County. Company’s needed to include all Monroe county employees after the ruling.

So if you are let go in Monroe County and not part of warm notice; you should make every effort to contact NY Labor department. They’ll tally the complaints and deal with the company.

It's been my experience that Xerox NYS WARN notices are made when union staff is involved: warehouse closures primarily such as 214. The rest have been done surreptitiously, as previously posted, in small enough numbers per day to avoid censure.

Further research reveals that if xerox is paying in lieu of WARN that they need to cover medical EXPENSES for 60 days, not necessarily insurance. So if you are layed off and don’t have coverage elsewhere and have a major accident (example) within 60 day, xerox by law pays.

Also be careful to assure they are paying for 60 work days (12 weeks) not 7 day weeks which brings it to 8.57 weeks

My takeaways on the excellent post:

1) since xerox has a MAXIMUM severance under the new policy at 12 weeks (60 days) it appears that anyone layed off who gets (or got) less is getting less than mandated by law, and a labor law suit can be made.

2) in the August layoff, people got a lump sum severance that did not include medical for any time, certainly not the 60 days they are mandated to get by law. A labor suit can be pursued for this aviolarion as well.

3) not from above but from my own research, NY WARN is by location. It’s sufficiently vague what constitutes a location that each BLDG on Webster campus could be a separate location.

IRIFs just in the USA or worldwide?

If rumors are true it’s not going to be pretty.

Well you just check the WARN and see how many times they actual reported. I see once.

I think WARN notices, both federal and state (New York, at least), are per location. So, if layoffs are distributed around the country, would that negate the need for a WARN notice? I also wonder if, within the large Webster complex, per location could mean by department and/or by building?