I don’t have a CDL but I know how to ride a bicycle. Is there a future for me at Enron Pacific?
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Yes by law you dont need a cdl over 10000 but up requires a class b in north platte so they can say you are properly trained if you get into a accident. From what I was told it comes from some one rear ending a car in a f550 and up getting sued
You don’t need CDL, if it weighs more than 10k. You just need to be DOT qualified. Now, manager post their own requirements for that certain position.
We had someone bump on to a job and disrupt the good ole boys, so they cried to mgmt who abolished it and reposted it with a welder certification requirement. They failed the guy when he tried to get certified, even though he is a good welder and can weld better than some people who are welder certified at our location.
To the response to " excuse excuse excuse" I do get the point. First the company put the requirement on the job at the time of posting, whether used or not is immaterial. It was required to bid. Where these jobs available for all to be to be awarded by seniority if qualified? I could agree with you if these were R. O. S. position such as TCI or MIC because of the arbitrary or favoritism that comes into play with these. However you are talking about standard wheel truck / road truck jobs. Get your CDL & bid on the next one. Take accountability for your choices or lack of choices. Life's not always fair.
They could always just shut your terminal down completely like they have at many other locations. If you know it might come to it go get your cdl if that's what you need to keep your job.
To the "excuses, excuses, excuses" comment.
You're completely missing the point. We are not talking about bidding a CDL required job. We are talking about a lower seniority guy remaining employed while a higher seniority guy gets furloughed.
The cherry on the top: These jobs with the "Class B license required" is that the Class B is not utilized in any way shape or form. The manager is picking and choosing which jobs to abolish for the job cut so that he purposely can save some select individuals. There was no legitimate reason for not abolishing those CDL jobs and just reposting them just like he did with the yard jobs.
this shows that the manager doesn’t give a sh– about his employees, you would think that the employee would get a chance to get the CDL to save his job. this is not a game it is f—ing with peoples lives here, now there are guys with less seniority working just because they have the stupid CDL for the stupid wheel truck that is never used. karma is a b–ch mr manager.
To the previous, if you are not towing a trailer over 10,000# behind your Wheel Truck then a "Class B" CDL is sufficient.
You only have to have a class b for the 4500 and 5500 trucks. You do have to have the class a for the wheel trucks. If you do get furloughed for it go get your learners permit then after the two week period take your test and then bump them off. You might be able to go to one of the schools while furloughed as job training and have unemployment pay for it
Excuses, excuses, excuses. The clause about "you must have The CDL before you can bid on a CDL required job has been in the contract since the imposed agreement in the 90s. What it is you were too lazy to go get the CDL. Others got theirs & made the sacrifice. Company pays for the physical & the cost of the CDL. It's your fault you don't have a CDL.
I did not know about the 10k pound thing, thanks! I wish the eight people I asked about it would have known this?
Were is the union rep in all of this. Shouldn't he be protecting the carman. Not working out deals with the managers. WTF
If it weighs more than 10k you need a CDL which requires a physical. Nuff said.
At my facility, the truck sits around most of the time and does not require a CDL. We have to go take a CDL physical to be able to drive it though? Don't understand?
Once you submit to your dot medical anything that is found there can cause you to be pulled out of service. Not fit for duty will be the next round of layoffs.
I got my degree from Truckmasters®, and i lost my job
funny how last round of layoffs the cdl did not matter. managers shady as f—!!!
Replying to the two comments below:
That's what makes this whole situation shady AF. The jobs in question don't need a CDL to perform the day to day tasks. They are meant as jobs for the rerailing crew to hold. But here's the most important part to remember...We don't even have a truck in the f—ing yard that needs a CDL!!
So no, you don't need a timeout to get qualified because you can perform the day to day job. You also don't need a CDL to be on the rerailing crew because we don't even have a CMV in the yard that requires one.
And to the guy who said why didnt we get the CDL sooner. That's easy, we did not know the contract would be interpreted this way. We thought layoffs would go by seniority, which it rightfully f—ing should, and has in the past.
So who does the job for the 90 days while you’re trying to get your CDL? Does the world stop turning while waiting? Do you call time-out? What’s your plan?
Why didn't you take the time to get your CDL? You always knew before that this a possibility.
How many jobs were lost to this?
It's a manager's b—s— way of interepting the verbage of the contract to fit his desires. He could very easily just abolish the CDL required jobs and repost them for bid. This would allow everyone to bid the job based off seniority and have 90 days to get CDL qualified. Job certifications should not supersede seniority when it comes to people losing their job, when the certification is easily attainable with time.
Sounds like a union issue. Wrong forum here.
I’ve never seen any language in our contract that supports this cdl medical certification for a phuuuucking LST truck that just sits in our yard with with flat tires and no brake lights! Managers hold you accountable but our union chairman’s and vice local chairman’s just sit back and never question management accountability ! What’s wrong with this??? There is no transparency in our contract between members and management! Management always on the takep–p
If you aren’t qualified for a job, you can’t bump into it. A job posted with specific qualifications that require a CDL as an example, is only available to those that are qualified to hold that job. A road truck for example. Does the road truck sit in a yard waiting for you to get a license while road operations come to a halt? No. Does a school bus monitor bump a licensed bus driver, leaving the kids with no transportation to school? No. You have to be qualified to bump into a job you bump into. That’s life and the law supports it.
It doesn't, youve been misinformed.