Thread regarding Oracle Corp. layoffs

Gen 2 Cloud Live

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https://www.datacenterdynamics.com/news/oracle-generation-2-cloud-go-live-australia/
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Compare the investments Google and AWS have made in DCs -tens of Billions of dollars each and every of the last 5 plus years - to Oracle’s non existent investments, and the difference becomes quite clear

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Post ID: @5qvf+10qOb7j0

AWS is mostly rented cages, their dc list was leaked some time ago, seems like half of IAD is AWS. I don't see the problem.

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Post ID: @5asz+10qOb7j0

A server in some rented cage is not a viable DC - oracle is a joke

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Post ID: @3kui+10qOb7j0

DR is double toilet flush.

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Post ID: @3nga+10qOb7j0

@2adt

" Besides the lack of DR, what is not viable about these DCs?"

Do you need another reason? Oracle is aiming for Enterprise, and aiming to win their critical business workloads.

That won't happen without DR. Enterprises need DR especially for their critical workloads.

The same thing happened two years ago in Sydney when Oracle launched OPC/OCI-C. Nobody used it because there were no DR capabilities.

Here's an article from 2017 announcing that Sydney region, and sounds eerily similar to the original article in this post posted this month.

https://www.afr.com/technology/tech-giant-oracle-makes-huge-investment-to-bring-cloud-services-to-australia-20170208-gu8ent

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@10qOb7j0-2rmx
SO in effect they tried to do it "on the cheap" and it is biting them hard. Got it.

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Post ID: @2drq+10qOb7j0

To be clear, ALL OCI and I believe all “OCI-C” is in rented CoLos with 3-7 year contracts. Some sites like Auburn are spread across 5 buildings and are completely out of growth optiions. The OneAD regions are a stupid approach to growth just to be able to claim a footprint; many are just 3 racks standing alone.

OCI would have been far better off to build a strong US business and “lift and shift” customers than to try and build an OCI Waffle House in every corner of the globe. Bad design, bad engineering, bad capacity management and zero business oversight.

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Post ID: @2rmx+10qOb7j0

There are supposed to be 3 AD in each region which there aren’t. They are supposed to be fully functional for PaaS and SaaS and classic to OCI migration: they aren’t. They are tiny DC in rented colo.

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Post ID: @2tce+10qOb7j0

Besides the lack of DR, what is not viable about these DCs?

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Post ID: @2adt+10qOb7j0

MVP= minimum viable product

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Post ID: @1xxi+10qOb7j0
Whoop another DC that isn’t even a MVP with no DR.

What is MVP?

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Post ID: @1rtj+10qOb7j0

@10qOb7j0-1ozq Less poetic, more historical :-) But definitely apt.

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Post ID: @1ouo+10qOb7j0

Me thinks the poetic term for this is “Potemkin village”

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Post ID: @1ozq+10qOb7j0

When Gen 2 OCI was called BMC one of the selling points was that it was designed from the ground up with availability/DR, with 3 zones connected by dedicated fiber.

Looks like since it became OCI they've started cutting corners, with all the new regions being a single DC/zone in rented colo cages.

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Post ID: @1lcj+10qOb7j0

Whoop another DC that isn’t even a MVP with no DR. This whole thing is a boondoggle of epic proportions!

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Post ID: @1jlf+10qOb7j0

OCI is a sh–hole

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Post ID: @1qdx+10qOb7j0

We opened a single OPC datacentre in Sydney in 2017. No customers used it because you can't do DR without a second datacentre.

So opening a single OCI datacentre is an interesting strategy.

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Post ID: @1vov+10qOb7j0

Naysayers, OCI roxs always

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