Enough with the complaining that you aren’t receiving free money above and beyond your paycheck because you were “promised” it. How about the majority of staff that works ten times as hard as you while you sleep at your desks and pretend to call your estimates. You are just as easily replaceable as the rest of us despite your perception that you possess some rare skill set that the company desperately needs. Most of you are box-readers and glorified order takers that think they are too good to down stock, push cart, load, put up ad signs, cut wire/blinds/wood because your time is so “valuable”. Get off your lazy, entitled horse and earn your keep like the rest of us. Nobody cares that your bills won’t be paid or your budget is messed up. We all have financial responsibilities to meet. Grow up and make better financial decisions you entitled lazy f—s. Good, hard working people have lost their jobs and all you guys care about is that in the future, you lose all your entitlement pay. Go ahead and downvote this but I have a feeling most Lowe’s associates agree with my sentiments.
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That is what I did when I was laid off as a DM. I sued them and the EEOC already told me Lowe's wants to settle. This is for their BS opportunity they gave us. When I was turned down for many positions including part time in a position I did as a Specialist for many years. I have proof of jobs I applied for and recordings of interviews where it was told I interviewed well but had no shot at any position. All retaliation for never wanting to be an ASM. I will get more free money from Lowe's. Will pay for daughters education. So screw them for hurting the worker. They deserve every lawsuit. They will never go to court because they are afraid of bad press.
Lowes promised its comission sales employees that they would retain 1/2 their comission based on the last year it was given ("for as long as you remained an hourly wage employee.") This was to make up for the loss of hourly wages as most commissioned employees did not get yearly income raises on our base pay because we made comission. Lowes does not do product knowledge classes like they use to. This will leave Lowes with employees that have no experience that at least us older employees had training on products and sales skills. Now they will have people who have no product knowledge just filling orders not helping and educating customers and putting them with a product that will fit their needs. January will be a sad time in Lowes. I have worked for Lowes a long time and have trained and educated many new employees. But it takes years to learn all things. Sales Specialists took a substantial pay cut years ago. Employees stayed because Lowes at least gave an olive branch and acknowledged the employee as a valued asset. I have been the highest Sale person in every store for almost ever year I have worked if not 1st I was 2nd. Lowes is like the Chinese country they promise to let Hong Kong operate separately for 50 years but now are reneging. Please Lowe don't be like the Chinese communist who reneged on the Hong kong guarentee.
I'm a top producing Sales Specialist. Not bragging, just stating what I do.
My sales last year were 1.6m. Million. I far exceed the 40,000 a month quota.
My store manager realizes if I'm not at my counter, I'm not able to sell, at least as well. That's what I was put in my position to do; sell. So I do. Not do your job not face product, not shake paint, not unload trucks. I do those things, it's just not in my job requirements. I help my fellow associates when time allows.
As for quitting whining, take your own advice.
My guess is, you're full of words, but not able to put them in a sentence that qualifies you to be a sales specialist, successfully ace a sales specialist job interview, or able to separate a customer from his money.
But, that's what I do. Every day.
We live in a free-market country. Lowe's is wrong and unfair. Specialists are free to sue and/or take their skills elsewhere to be paid what the market determines they are worth.
never count another man's money and never involve yourself in another man's business. How or why they got an allowance is irrelevant, the company is taking money out of their pocket. It's b—s—
“I’m a specialist—I get paid to sell, not to do tasks” was the usual refrain from those that I worked with over the years. It showed an attitude that did not contribute to a team-oriented work atmosphere and IMO it created and contributed to other problems as well. And yes, most of them are just order-takers, as it does not, in most cases, really take a lot of salesmanship to sell appliances and OPE. Most people come in and know what they want. All that being said, I think the company is wrong to take away the ‘allowance’ from those who were around back during the time of spiffs. MY understanding is that there were a limited number of these individuals and they were grandfathered into this program with the understanding that they would only continue to receive this allowance as long as they stay in their current position. Seemed fair enough to me. But then again I’m not surprised at all by corporate doing this. Like I’ve been saying for two years now, they want a predominantly part-time work force in the stores and the only way you will have a full-time, high wage job there is if you accept a management role.
Tells specialist to quit whining, then proceeds whine. Can't make this sh*t up. Lol
Specialists the managers pets. Finally, realizing they were the court jesters. They bragged about not having to work past 9pm at my old store, they also bragged about not having to do freight, sweep, dust.... they just had to dress nice and greet customers. But if the spiff wasn’t big enough they’d page for help and wait for someone looking at higher end product.
It is better to have a pay cut than a layoff, they will gripe and sue about the pay cut. Then Lowe’s can cut their loss by just laying them off.
I’m sure some specialists work. But the ones at my store are good ornaments.
Tired of hearing about how specialists don’t work and always whine. Screw you! I have been at Lowe’s for almost 16 years working my a– off as a specialists then I get these snot nose spoiled brats hired that think they can do better and deserve more. Guess what? I worked circles around these id–ts I brought over 30+ years of flooring experience to Lowe’s. And guess what? None of them are still around. But I am... go figure.
Many of the current specialists do not get nor ever got spiffs so don't lump them all in the same category. We have worked hard without extra pay for several years and it is a thankless job. We can't make our bills despite our hard work so hard to feel sorry for those who kept getting spiffs when others get nothing doing the same job.
This "spiff" argument is the same old "shop class kid vs the nerd" argument. Hasnt anyone learned a goddaamn thing since high school.
There is no you vs them. We are the same.
Lowes hired these people, made a deal, took away the deal, then made another spiff deal, etc. Its between Lowes and employee. Not you, the late comer to the party with an opinion.
I Sytarted in 2012, long after commissions and spiffs. I receive nothing. I started as plant waterer and then psa, installed sales, and now up to specialist. I feel terrible for any hard worker who loses pay or their jobs and I recognize that support roles such as csa's, unloaders, psa, etc are just as important as sales roles. Lowe's DOES NOT agree with me, and pays sales positions more money because in the end, sales to them mean more. So dot hate on those in sales positions.
I personally never get a break, am short handed, and do the job of at least 5 people.
My experience is that I, as a specialist, work much harder than 99% of support staff. However, many specialists do not. But thats a generalization, taken from a collectivist mindset. You need to look at each individual, from an individual perspective. Not as an overall "all specialists s—", or "those getting spiffs had a free ride and good its taken away".
Thats mental childness. Its a weak formulation from a weak mind, and a hater.
It's so easy to fuss about them....well this is the second time Lowe's is screwing them. Don't get jealous though your turn will come.
the idea that ANYONE would take joy in a fellow associate having their pay be cut baffles me. I hated when the company eliminated department managers and forced their hand to either leave or take a position at much less pay for doing basically the same work. But some people just love misery and want to spread misery to others. All i know is i already make less than the specialists were making 10 yrs ago and now with the allowance elimination it will be much less. Does the idea of YOU making 35% less than you were 10 yrs ago for doing the exact same job appeal to you? If so be a real company gem and volunteer yourself for the massive pay cut...they'll love you for it
The commission was part of the job offer when I took the job. I worked hard, I knew my products, I related well with the customer and sold them the right products for thier needs. Then Lowe's took it away and offered the allowance which decreased my paycheck. Mind you the specialist were also hired at a 50 hour work week and not being paid overtime for it. Now they are taking the allowance away. I am still doing the same job as a specialist but for a lot less money then I was offered way back when. I am losing about $200 a paycheck which used to be $400 a paycheck 16 years ago. If Lowe's offered you $18 an hour and next year took $2 an hour away you would not be a happy camper either.
lets talk specialists we are a group of people that have sold items that we specializ in like doors windows blinds flooring that other employee cant do let me tell you we all do carts load and do register and every thing our managers ask to do so if you can do it walk to millworks and try to order a custom door or go to flooring and sell a job in ims you wount have a clue on how to do it
I am also not longer a specialist and have been busting my a– for the last 5 years being a PSA and MSM and even took the job without a raise because of my "allowance".
Those that worked in appliances recieving the majority of these spiffs were also hired on at a lower pay rate than the rest of the sales specialists. The 50% allowance wasn't even enough to catch them up to the rest of the field. Since then we also higher specialist on at a higher pay rate due to pay rate advisor. This cut drops us even lower than other tenured specialists who were in other roles. Sure as sh– if your dumb a– got a 10K plus pay cut you might understand the affects.