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A manager's guide to quitting UP

If you're planning on quitting here is a list of some things you should know and do both before and during the process. This is intended for field managers but a lot of it applies to anyone who is fed up with UP and is getting ready to move on.

1) Don't give notice.

2) Collect and securely store key numbers/email addresses (payroll, references, etc.). You will probably need to call payroll at least once after you leave. Remember your employee ID# for this reason.

3) Collect all UP property (phone, laptop, etc.) for a fast and orderly return. Give everything you were issued or that they paid for back to them, even if they tell you that you can keep it. Someone will go through a checklist with you. Insist on being given a signed copy. Once they sign, they can't garnish your pay for anything on the list. Make sure that you wipe your personal data from their devices.

4) Set yourself up to leave at the end of the month, or after you're already cut what will be your last check. You should also be paid in full for any unused vacation time within 30 days. If that doesn't happen, keep calling payroll until it does.

5) Arrange references. Be smart about who you ask.

6) You can use vacation days or stress leave that you didn't burn up looking for another job as a bridge to your start date.

7) CC key communications (resignation letter, etc.) to your personal email and keep them as a matter of record. Don't resign by phone or in person. The letter should go to your first-line manager, with the regional HR manager/director CCd. You are not required to provide a reason for quitting.

8) Don't give notice. It isn't required and it does nothing for you.

Good luck.

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Post ID: @OP+11G9abHz

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I'm going to stay at UP despite being miserable because it is apart of my sigma male grindset, rule #103

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Post ID: @aPbro+11G9abHz

Only thing I would say differently is to GIVE NOTICE... why? They most likely will terminate immediately, but will pay you out through the notice date, so no need to use your vacation for the buffer period. Save your vacation and get a nice payout check within 2 weeks of the last payroll check. I wouldn't bank on waiting for a severance... the package changes every round, so don't expect to get what the past employees did.

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Post ID: @fxrj+11G9abHz

I'm the OP. I put up this list because I had to learn all of this the hard way, and I didn't want other managers, especially junior managers and OMTs, to go through what I went through with UP while quitting. UP has reserved a special set of dirty tricks that they play on non-agreement employees while they are leaving the company. This is especially true with regards to payroll and benefits.

Protect yourselves at all times, and don't believe anything that comes from anyone above you. They either don't know what is happening, or they're deliberately misleading you because they're planning to throw you under the bus to protect their job.

Good luck.

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Post ID: @1tpt+11G9abHz

Op is 100% spot on.

Btw, they arent doing buyouts anymore

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Post ID: @lfa+11G9abHz

Yes you can draw RRB with 5 years and you’re 62. But SOCSEC would be worth more at that point.

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Post ID: @klv+11G9abHz

Lol at the hr people on here telling people to stick it out

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Post ID: @dnr+11G9abHz

@giq you only need five years to be able to collect retirement they RRB

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Post ID: @kts+11G9abHz

Previous post is right. The UPRR would like nothing more than a manager to outright quit. That means they end their connection with that employee, no railroad retirement, no 401k, no managers pension, no more bonuses, wages or benefits and they can show a job reduction. I’d hang in there and smile every time I cashed that check, Railroad Retirement is a hell of lot better than Social Security.

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Post ID: @giq+11G9abHz

I’d say hang in there, do your job, collect their money, take the buyout if offered, because eventually they’ll be another regime change and things will go back to the way they were. I look forward collecting Railroad Retirement, managers pension and cashing in on my 401K.
Vena signed on for 2 years, year 1 is almost over, Fritz will either get run off or retire and things will go back to normal.

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Post ID: @snb+11G9abHz

How long is the list of managers waiting for a severance package instead of quitting lol? I know people that have been waiting for 3 years now thinking eventually they’ll get one all for six months pay lmao. Ever heard of opportunity cost?

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Post ID: @wvy+11G9abHz

You could also watch the cult classic "Deep Throat", learn from it, and your job won't get cut.

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Post ID: @zys+11G9abHz

Why quit when they’ll give a 6 month severance or give you another job with a move if your job is cut. My only suggestion is don’t buy a home at your new location if you’re given a move. If your job is cut again and your not offered another job you’ll have to move yourself (no moving package).

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