Thread regarding Oracle Corp. layoffs

Mind-boggling

Having two CEOs was always an incredible waste of money. SC was just a glorified accountant, who I guess LE needed to give a CEO title to in order to keep her around. Guess she wasn’t good enough to handle finance and sales/ops. Yet so many teams struggle with lack of resources. Those folks had to figure out how to deal with a workload, deadlines, etc without enough resources, yet O had TWO freakin CEOs. WTF?!?

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This what I find totally mind-boggling. There is never enough money for development tools, qa, and quality people to do the work. But, there's millions to waste on TWO CEOs!

I find this totally mind-boggling. People in development are struggling and are told to use 3rd party and open source solutions. I had to use a 10-day trial license of one application to do memory testing. It's a total mess in development. The build group was telling people to use a web tool to decompile Oracle class files and look to see if your changes are there. Totally ridiculous.

No money for QA people either or any kind of decent testing by QA.

Money is just wasted and the people doing the work are under a lot of stress trying to find solutions for doing the work. It's a total sh—show. It's no wonder everything is collapsing under the money mis-management that goes on.

Ridiculously overpaid CEOs. Two of them, TWO OF THEM, in the top 10 highest paid CEOs list!

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It all about LE being in charge without having to have the CEO title

Exactly right. LE made $4 billion by pretending he wasn't in charge.

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It all about LE being in charge without having to have the CEO title

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Post ID: @6hni+122UtYn6

MH cannot be replaced

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Post ID: @4vsk+122UtYn6

I doubt MH will be replaced.

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@122UtYn6-1vxc:
I like your analogy. I was on the support side of things. From that view, we were forced to keep our customers at arms length with a myriad of clunky tools. Making promises to customers that won’t be kept. Filing bugs that will never be fixed.

The support job I now have is like heaven. Smart, savvy and friendly colleagues and management. A popular product that customers love, and they love the support team too. Why? Because we are allowed to assist them without worrying about id–tic metrics and brain dead policies instituted by management worried about THEIR id–tic metrics. Oh, and modern tools that actually work, none of the horrible oracle so-called tools.

It’s possible to re-tool and get the hell out of Oracle. It’s like going from a drab black and white world, to full Technicolor with Surround Sound!

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I've worked at Oracle in an engineering (not management) position, and I've seen the (tail end) of the way they interact with acquisitions. I tend to be somewhat guarded about talking about it – I don't see a benefit to me badmouthing a former employer. But, I'll be open and honest for this comment.
The analogy I use to describe Oracle is that they're this kind of massive lumbering beast that just lays around and occasionally swallows other companies alive and whole. Then those companies run around inside, burning existing customer good will for a while until Oracle finishes digesting them or generating whatever news-reports or vendor lock-in they wanted in the first place. Then Oracle goes out to find another company to eat.
I saw a slow movement with my particular department away from developing useful software towards, "just keep on releasing things, just keep on trying to figure out what looks good at trade shows, just keep the department moving forward like a zombie while it gets eaten away and resources get shifted to new acquisitions and lawyers and salespeople." The software wasn't even a secondary concern, it was just a very minor part of the company that happened on the side. Writing code was a side-effect of the business, our real business was sales and grand promises and multi-year contracts that everyone was going to regret.
As a developer that wants to build products that actually help businesses and users, it felt really, really bad – and my impression interacting with other parts of the business and other departments felt the same. Like they were just kind of lumbering on, that they existed because a few companies were locked in or were still buying them, and a few more dollars could be extracted before they starved to death or until their staff was fully absorbed into new projects.
I won't go into any more specific detail than that; for better or worse I feel like I have some responsibility to be a little vague. But by the time I left I was convinced that any company Oracle bought or any project it maintained was doomed as soon as they touched it. It's one of the reasons I won't work with Java – I just don't want to tie myself to a technology that's owned by a company like that.
The current case with Sun is to me perfectly in character with the company. Oracle bought Sun, k–led everything that made it Sun, and now their lawyers are out trying to extract every last penny they can get out of its mostly rotted corpse, all under the guise of 'protecting their investment' or whatever.
I'm very cynical on Oracle now, and I wasn't even at the company very long. Since moving on I've been able to work on industry-scale software that's actually being designed for customers and that actually cares about helping them accomplish business goals. It's a massive breath of fresh air that I'm still grateful for to this day. It makes a huge difference to be able to get up in the morning and feel like there's an actual reason you're going to work beyond buying Ellison a new yacht.

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Post ID: @1vxc+122UtYn6

SC genius is only to buyback Oracle stock, tout the stock publicly, then sell $256 Million of her own ORCL stock at artificially high prices.

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