Thread regarding Lowe's Cos. layoffs

The 1st big change coming 1/10'ish. You think your schedule is bad now? Wait til 1/10.

You heard it here 1st colleagues. Fresh out of a conference call with corporate dipchits, we will have a new, double new, concentric scheduling kick off around 1/10 - 1/12.

No employee, position, or department is immune. Its applies to everyone.

Here's whats coming:

Lowe's will now recognize 32 hours as full time. Not 39, not 40. 32. And its our (managements) responsibility to run as close to that 32 as possible. Any more hours per week for a FT 'er is frowned upon and you better have a very good reason.

No more "set" schedules for anyone. Anyone from any department will be working 10 hr days, then a 5, maybe a 3. All over the place. So in one week, you can work a 10, a 5, a 3, a 10, and a 4 to make 32 hours.

You will also be scheduled any hours of store operating hours. Opens, closes, mids. 6 am to 10 one day, 2 pm to 11 the next.

Even Pro guys who are now scheduled to accommodate pro hours (typically 7-5 Mon thru Fri) will be subject to the same random concentric schedules. We managers were told that the MOD will be covering, and must if no Pros are scheduled.

So this is just lovely nonsense aint it folks!?> Nothing makes even less sense. Good job Marv and company you teats!

Resume updated. Im out and Im gone asap. Sorry to be bearer of bad news, but when was the last time at Lowe's youve heard any good news?

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Post ID: @OP+12A5DOwZ

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Major changes don't happen on a friday either. Better yet, the schedule is still normal beyond today's date.

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Post ID: @ncwf+12A5DOwZ

“ The 1st big change coming 1/10'ish. You think your schedule is bad now? Wait til 1/10.
You heard it here 1st colleagues. Fresh out of a conference call with corporate dipchits, we will have a new, double new, concentric scheduling kick off around 1/10 - 1/12.”

OP, you were saying…? I would give you until 1/12 but that’s a Sunday and major changes never come down on a Sunday.

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Post ID: @macq+12A5DOwZ

I feel like these rumors come from SOMEWHERE and while I feel like these are not exact truths, the basic idea exists (cutting payroll, saving money, doing more with less) that the philosophy is intact just not the exact information. I find it amusing that oftentimes with minimal coverage on the weekend (especially Sunday) it seems like a lot of the money is spent on NFL underwriting and the commercials imply that you can go down ANYTIME to your local Lowe's store and buy whatever it is you see advertised during the NFL commercial breaks. Personally, I would say the best time to get help is before lunch every day and no later than 3 pm weekdays and maybe up to about noon on weekends.

A customer recently came in and complained and said "there should be more help" and I thought for sure, if it didn't cost any more. And then they offered that "it is the same everywhere" and probably this is the only way actual stores are able to compete with the internet. Just keep cutting and reducing the size of the bottom line. More 3rd party; fewer benefits; smaller payroll; fewer employees. Marvin said he thought employees were Lowe's biggest asset but then he contradicted himself by reducing the workforce and maybe it is all just lip-service but as long as the shareholders and the board are happy...that is all that matters.

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Post ID: @hdfe+12A5DOwZ

part timer logic always slays me. youll always be the first to get cut in any company as youll always be considered gap filler. this time of year is slow at lowes....part timers will always be the first to have hours cut when payroll needs to be cut.

@12A5DOwZ-hvhe – thats the OP trying to prop up his narrative! even if it werent...one SM wouldnt just start rolling it out before corporate told them to do it across the board at every store. good grief your lies are paper thin

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Post ID: @haty+12A5DOwZ

we were told friday that 32 hrs is now considered FT and schedules will be reflecting this in very near future. Here it comes. Our sm and asm's said corp needs to save every nickle possible and by cutting hours 8 hrs by every employee is the best way to do it.

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Post ID: @hvhe+12A5DOwZ

Well, I think something is up at my store that is affecting the part-timers. Full timers hours for the most part have been posted for the week of the 11th. I am a part-timer and have no hours scheduled for the week of the 11th as other part-timers have little to no hours scheduled. The following work week I am only scheduled for 25 hours when normally I work around 32 or so as a part-timer. Management tells me that they are still working on the schedule for the 11th. So I think my store is adjusting to the latest (previous to this original poster) customer centric scheduling.

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Post ID: @gsum+12A5DOwZ

This is a ridiculous rumor for one reason. Benefits. It makes no sense, because you would never hire 5 people at 32 hours each. You would be paying benefits on that 5th person for no reason. If they wanted to save money, they would have fewer full time employees who work the most hours they can. So 4 people working 40 each. Either way, it’s the same 160 hours. If they wanted more bodies, they’d add part timers.

This is obvious fear mongering from someone who has far too little business acumen to properly troll. I wouldn’t even allow this to be posted on Reddit if someone tried.

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Post ID: @cgae+12A5DOwZ

Not sure this is actually happening but likely the gist of it is. I feel like it was corporate's intent to scare off nd alienate the specialists when they took the integrated money that Niblock gave when the spiffs were eliminated and then they required specialists to work until 9 (our store, until 10) and it is generally believed that the highest-paid non managers in the store are specialists and when the distribution centers and IMS start working as they should, specialists may be few and far between. I feel like you can make lots of money without the cost and expense of employees and the fewer employees the better is the way it is headed (or at least cheaper employees). But, be aware. This is what Circuit City did. Got rid of the higher-paid long-term employees and replaced them with high school and college kids and people stayed away. Best Buy is doing well enough, so it is possible to survive as a brick-and-mortar store.

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Post ID: @6yqi+12A5DOwZ

BINGO! once youre in benefit territory the "cost between 32 and 39 is negligible. ironically the often throw more money at part timers and seasonal workers because they're desperate. dropping all FT to 32...taking away a whole days wage would severely rock the boat.

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Post ID: @5dkf+12A5DOwZ

You people are fools if you believe this c-ap. Why would they have full timers at 32 hours?,lol, why not just go to 31 and not have to pay the huge benefit costs?????! The post makes no sense at all, it's just a fool trying to get attention. Some people will believe anything they read!

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Post ID: @5otd+12A5DOwZ

Still don’t believe OP. Stores will override whatever system to do what works for them at their current staffing levels. Today, Sunday before XMAS so many departments had only 1 person and forget having anyone in appliances or tools or Paint after 6pm. And cashiers short, receiving got a truck but nc/ns left them short. And those nc/ns get same “winning together” bonus! Why does someone who constantly never shows get same bonus as person who has to work like a maniac and not take unpaid breaks to get the work done when they call out!

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Post ID: @4ydo+12A5DOwZ

Problem with OP's story is just that - it's theirs and nobody else's. If this were in the works and ready to be dropped soon, we'd be hearing about it from multiple sources.

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Post ID: @4cff+12A5DOwZ

Total lies!! My schedule for the week of the 11th is posted.. No changes..Good try..

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Post ID: @3aqz+12A5DOwZ

Still don’t believe it. Still think I’ll win my bet on 1/11.

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Post ID: @3djh+12A5DOwZ

"I don't believe it! Tell me how you were in a conference call? Are you a store manager? Asm? You would not have this knowledge in a lower position. So show us proof and not just say its happening!"

And how do you suggest I show proof? You cant even post pics on this forum. Foer the record, yes! I am in upper management and I was the one who sent the racial comment to the Washington Post.

Lowe's is unethical, and I am the one proving it. I am one manager who refuses to sit by idly, accepting unethical behaviors.

Believe me or not. I dont care. I too was like, "well this makes no sense", but then again, NOTHING these days makes sense at Lowe's. I had the conf call with my local district corp team, and this is whats on deck.

Watch what happens on 1/11 but then again, once a prior roll out leaked before the sdtart date they simple bumped it back so we'll see.

But yea.. when we said, "but how can pro guys do theior job working 2-11pm? That contractors line up at our store at opening and are usually out by 11 working. They said, well, some come in AFTER the days work to buy supplies for the next day!
And made up more lame excuses. Then said, "and we expect management to cover the desk and answers bells. Any lost sales you will be accountable for and bad surveys too!"

This is why Im annoyed and posting here.

Believe me or not, I dont really care. My resume is out there.

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Post ID: @3tjl+12A5DOwZ

The govt says that 30 hours is full time for health benefits. The only way this makes sense is as a way to make full timers quit and replace them with part timers who can’t afford the benefits.
Another short term benefit for this s— a– company is the 8 hours payroll savings times about 100000 employees.
God Bless Marvin? God has something in mind for you, but I imagine it ain’t anything you want.

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Post ID: @3dyd+12A5DOwZ

I don't believe it! Tell me how you were in a conference call? Are you a store manager? Asm? You would not have this knowledge in a lower position. So show us proof and not just say its happening!

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Post ID: @2vlr+12A5DOwZ

32 hours and still get full time benefits. Bring it on. I will gladly sacrifice the 7 hours

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Post ID: @2rci+12A5DOwZ

well....a significant pay cut from losing the spiff allowance AND this??? I see plenty of half hour lunches in my near future

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Post ID: @2nbo+12A5DOwZ

They can cut my hours to 32 if they raise my pay to make up for it. Otherwise I walk, no problem finding another job in this economy.

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Post ID: @2zxh+12A5DOwZ

Oh yeah, try this with the Night Crew. No way this happens.

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Post ID: @2rtu+12A5DOwZ

Breaking news. Mass walkouts and Lowe’s stores burning around the country on release of new schedules for employees 1/10/19.
Just another prediction.

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Post ID: @2kmu+12A5DOwZ

sounds about right
average full timer $15-22 hr some less some more average out $18
at least 30 full time employees at my location.
$18 x 8hrs x 30 full timers x 52 weeks =$225k
$12 x 20 hrs x 18 part timers x 52 weeks = $225k

18 more employees working 12 more hours a week for same money.
Every time a full timer quits esp ones on the high end of the pay scale will just make those numbers rise, and im sure quite a few will quit as this would cut anywhere from $6k-10k a year from thier salary.
I can see this happening but who knows guess we will see

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Post ID: @2fju+12A5DOwZ

It’s very simple folks. If this comes to pass, I for one will give my 2 weeks notice!

No big deal, there ARE OTHER JOBS OUT THERE! Very simple solution...

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Post ID: @2ige+12A5DOwZ

Yeah, I believe someone that uses imbiciles 2x in one post, plus dipchits, and j–koffs.

Sounds like someone that had had 4 interviews for a specialist job and can't figure out why he's still a CSA.

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Post ID: @2xlq+12A5DOwZ

Payroll....was lowest weakest link between home Depot...... wouldn't surprise me expect it.....

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Post ID: @2qlo+12A5DOwZ

The people with the accommodations are the ones that are being targeted the most. Even had our SM in one of the Monday managers meetings right after CCS rolled out state that we need to be the toughest on those who have set accommodations.

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Post ID: @2gyp+12A5DOwZ

I made a bet with myself. Going to buy a treat on 1/10 if OP's prediction is not correct. Should just buy it now, because have not seen my new Associate Availability form yet, and last time it took weeks to get them completed and them mgmt. to enter into system. Not enough time for 1/10 change.

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Post ID: @1sst+12A5DOwZ

I can confirm that our walls and windows specialist walked after being told her job was being changed to csa4 status. She was like why should I do the same job for two dollars less per hour?

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Post ID: @1dqu+12A5DOwZ

Let the force be with you .

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Post ID: @1ido+12A5DOwZ

Probably just fear mongering. However there usually is a small percentage of rumors that do turn out. Market staff isn't very good at keeping everything under wraps.

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Post ID: @1acm+12A5DOwZ

all you nay-sayers are imbeciles. all you have to do is wait til 1/11 j–koffs.
its coming!

back end is gong to eventually be 100% 3rd party

corp has been moving at a fast pace to make as much of lowes 3rd party as possible. rtm? gone. 1/31 its over for all rtm position.

once the centralized warehouses go into effect (places that simple store our big items: fridges, appliances, etc) even fewer specialists will be necessary. The windows and walls specialist too is being eliminated.

The front ened? Really? We dont have anyone there now at 6 to put cash in tills. Sometimes the lumber dept doesnt get drawers until 30-45 mins after store open!

YThe prob with all you dipchits is applying logic and reason to Lowe;'s. There isnt any. There is ZERO conceptual thought or thought process BEFORE enacting new policies. You are a fkkn # on paper. That it all. Right now, all this week, our printed schedules are COOKED! Fake names, or others move to other depts on paper to make it look like coverage, and more. Its been going on since the first day I walked in. We questioned it, and told to stfu.

Its coming people. 1/11. Mark your calendars and until then, shut your dirty holes imbeciles. Its people like those here attacking the original poster who deserve a career at Lowe's. Clueless, brainless, spineless clowns.

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Post ID: @1oab+12A5DOwZ

By law employers must pay for a minimum of 4 hours wages regardless of how long they have you work. Aside from all store meetings they do everything they can to squeeze as much out of you as possible, so that already is a strike against OP's credibility.

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Post ID: @1ers+12A5DOwZ

this exact style post was made last year at this time and again a few months ago. nothing is really gained by FT being dropped down. but it certainly plays off of fears and the belief that we all think corporate is full of id–ts. the entire back end was exempted from CCS because those operations are set daily task each and every day. thats why back end has a set schedule....not as some job perk but because those task require it. if my store dropped FT down to 32 hours it would get real scary. we are already severely understaffed and cant find anyone who wants a job. as it is the handful of bodies still standing are being forced into weekly OT!

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Post ID: @1hto+12A5DOwZ

There are some departments and positions you cannot change the schedules.

Receiving will not be working all hours any days. TrucKS don't deliver like that.

The cash office must be in 1st thing for drawers and to get deposits ready to hand over to armoured trucks.

Pro is dead at 3pm now. Saturdays by 1pm.

Nice try to get people worked up.

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Post ID: @1umt+12A5DOwZ

lol. right. they cant staff stores now! seriously. for monthssss now we cant even get any applicants at our area storeS. its really scary how few want to work for lowes. and the people who do work here dont want to work here and quickly leave.

this exact time last year right before christmas this BS was rumored and i went off on that post too. again we didnt screw you over...the corporation did...so why try to bring fear and panic into innocent peoples lives.

this would in no way be meant to kick out long time ppl......majority of them have already left.....the falsehood that to push out the long time workers and bring in cheaper ones is false....the common complaint of most long time workers is that they are making the same or less than new hires!

lowes corporate knows how bad their job pool is....they know they cant risk rocking that boat and potentially have such a mass exodus that stores literally no longer can run.

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Post ID: @1vag+12A5DOwZ

Accomodations? Thos epeople will be targeted, or simply harassed legally til they leave.

Doesnt make sense with Pro? No chit! But that doesnt stop Marv and Co.

Watch people.. its coming, and when you apply logic to it, nothing will make sense and corporate doesnt care.

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Post ID: @bhv+12A5DOwZ

Wouldn't make sense with Pros since pro services is closed sundays and most of their business is done mon-fri during peak time. Plus they just rolled out CCS

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Post ID: @wrb+12A5DOwZ

heard the same thing in my store (so cal)

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Post ID: @lxb+12A5DOwZ

*hear

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