Thread regarding Honeywell International Inc. layoffs

What's next after EEI?

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Message from Sathish

“The Aerospace leadership team is committed to providing you with a positive employee experience. One thing that we’ve identified as hindering our employee experience is the Engineering Effort Index, or EEI. I admittedly am not an expert at how this is calculated, but I know it is frustrating for me and for you. Can our success truly be determined by measuring and tracking the amount of work one person does on a daily basis? The answer is no. That is why we are doing away with EEI. We achieve more and do it faster when we work as a collaborative team to deliver on our goals. This is how we want to start measuring our performance in the future. More details about this important and beneficial change will be announced soon, but for now, R.I.P. EEI.”

I doubt they will just let the idea of "productivity from design" go. What great ideas can they come up with to measure it next?

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Maybe the "sunshine" only applies to India. America gets to keep the EEI. Just because.

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Post ID: @cnrl+12fedH1q

One thing hindering
engineering experience
is the energetic purge of
older experienced engineers
and
replacement with fewer
energetic inexperienced
new grads

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Post ID: @bdqp+12fedH1q

Just bend over and prepare for the next phase - do it quicker, better, agile, sprint, b.s.

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Post ID: @6qiv+12fedH1q

I saw this email too.

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Post ID: @5cic+12fedH1q

I’ve heard no confirmation. Time to confirm or flame this thread.

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Post ID: @4sra+12fedH1q

The OP is correct. Watch the Q4 town hall.

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Post ID: @4viq+12fedH1q

Engagement follows leadership. Lack of “engagement” is simply evidence that leadership cannot articulate a reason to be in business. Aero leaders tried to get the workers to create this mission lacking the vision themselves. That tells volumes. Move on we have no new products.

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Post ID: @1kdm+12fedH1q
  • 1hmk

too too late.

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Post ID: @1vue+12fedH1q

We seriously need to take this company back people. Stop embracing the giving of American engineering jobs to India.

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Post ID: @1hmk+12fedH1q

I agree with the other post reflecting that this is entirely false. Engineers are very smart but most lack common sense. Not a chance this email was sent to the Engineering function.

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Post ID: @1vlx+12fedH1q

It all the same folks — DDLP, EEI, Yield, group-goals . They want us to work that 15% fee OT. Don't be fooled by smoke and mirrors.

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Post ID: @1sel+12fedH1q

I am not in Engineering and after reading the OP I doubt a leader really wrote “RiP EEI”. Can someone verify that the OP is correct. I strongly believe it is not.

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Post ID: @1tzs+12fedH1q

DDLP is much closer to direct charge yield. So its much better at determining if engineering is hitting affordability targets.
Its much better than EEI.

However, we can argue about where department targets are set. Unsustainable levels result in limited training, drive attrition, and force unsustainably large group sizes.

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Post ID: @1ntn+12fedH1q

The year is done and they must have given up on making the AOP numbers … which is what our VP said EEI was all about in the beginning.

Does this mean I have to redo the recent estimates I did where we set the FTE hours per month to 172 ?

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Post ID: @1rfn+12fedH1q

Old news... 4 months ago HR Director at E&PS Engines sent an email to the site telling everyone that EEI is not to be used to assess individual effort. It is to be used to balance workload amongst a manager’s staff. And, it stated to remove EEI from HPD goals.

Engineering leadership will brew up a fuzzy measurement; makes them feel good.

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Post ID: @1mtr+12fedH1q

Yes and No. Not certain but I thought EEI was absorbed by another metric called DLP which I believe combines actual yield and EEI. Why? because it is yield that actually counts towards the bottom line not indirect spending. The company has never published the rules around all of this.

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Post ID: @1aez+12fedH1q

This is good news an definitely an improvement. They need to get rid of the id–ts that came up with EEI though.

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Post ID: @1ijb+12fedH1q

I sure hope this is true. However, my gut is warning me that something much more Byzantine is coming...

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Post ID: @cmq+12fedH1q

The real test is if they take down the tableau page that managers like me see for EEI.

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Post ID: @jsp+12fedH1q

Remember when they wanted us to only have 4 goals in HPD (instead of 20.) The idea was to focus on 4 things that could really matter...what happened...most managers just jammed the old 20 items they wanted/tracked into 4 goals with tons of abbreviations...to the point where the goal was meaningless. EEI will be replaced by something worse.....I hope not, but all this company cares about is Wall Street and cost cutting. Measurement always impacts what is done....since most managers do not know how to lead, they only care about metrics...and the biggest metric is cost...so the answer is to offshore. Way to grow the business...zealots for growth/winning....i.e. can you really cut your way to growth? Future shape that! Just saying something does not make it so. I only see one way this company will change...when nobody foreign or domestic wants to work at the big H.

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Post ID: @phh+12fedH1q

Weekly EEI is just how many hours you charged/40. But vacation hours are included, so someone that takes lots of vacation can look just as productive as someone that worked every day.
Good riddance.

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Post ID: @bmi+12fedH1q

Hopeful.
Now fire the people who told you it was a good idea (mckinsey?)

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Post ID: @nok+12fedH1q

"I admittedly am not an expert on how this is calculated" is an interesting way to put some daylight between yourself and a legally questionable business practice.

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Post ID: @yxq+12fedH1q

Translation: Now that we've used EEI as a way to arbitrarily slash/burn headcount, it's no longer needed.

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Post ID: @emh+12fedH1q

Boy this message from Sathish carries a positive tone as a take away from the initial reading.... I have that lingering thought that E.E.I. will remain - as a metric for reviews.

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