Thread regarding Cisco Systems Inc. layoffs

If you're interviewing to the point of getting offers, then you've made up your mind to leave. Take the offer and leave. Feel free to tell management why you're leaving and how much better the pay will be. They may decide to counter offer to keep you, but I seriously doubt it.

Cisco likes to pay everyone at the median range for their pay grade. If you're above the median, you have a big target on your back when it comes time for the next LR, so if you get a pay bump, it's only temporary and now you have to look for work when it benefits Cisco's needs, not yours.

Over a decade ago, I was at a company that was cutting wages and trying to flatten the pay rates for people in the same roles/pay grades. When they cut my pay, I started looking for new work and quickly found my first role here at Cisco. Everyone was leaving. Turns out that I was underpaid compared to my co-workers, so my previous company tried to counter offer by offering me my original wages back. Cisco was offering me the same pay as all my other co-workers who were leaving and not looking back. I told them if they couldn't even match my new offer, much less beat it, why would I want to stay? They'd only cut it later or find someone cheaper and replace me as soon as they could find a suitable replacement.

It was time to go, and it sounds like it's time for you to go. I hope you enjoy the new role. I know that I enjoyed changing roles in the military every 3-4 yrs.

Hurts to ask if your department doesn't have the budget, but your boss needs your headcount for political reasons. Temporary pay bump and first on the layoff list.

If you have an offer in your pocket, it never hurts to ask. "I really like it here and I'd be happy to stay, but I'd need 10k/20k/50k to consider it"

In the end it's simply a business decision for you and your management.

You can ask, you will be immediately placed on the RIF list.

Cisco has a long track record of laying people off that were top performers they desperately needed due to poor management at upper levels. Even if you're manager loves you when the list comes your gone. Got a better offer take it. You'll feel like an id–t if you stay and get dumped in 6 months.

Don't even think about it.

So you want to lose your job in the very near future? Good planning

A vindictive manager could really harm you at Cisco. Be careful.

Don't do it.

As others have said, you've already made the decision to leave in your head. This pattern of telling your Manager "you have a better offer" is a 'Mexican stand-off' you will eventually lose. Even if they give you a matching raise, you have shown yourself as a person who is only looking for the $ and will go to the next highest bidder that comes along.

At best, detail your recent accomplishments and present to your boss with a request for a raise. If he/she says no, you have your answer and have the option of staying without potential reproductions OR taking the other offer and setting sail.

Don't show your hand.

If you truly want to stay, I would approach it this way.
Tell your boss, you were not looking for a new job, but were recruited and given an offer. Say you really want to stay at Cisco, but that the offer you have is quite compelling. S/He will ask how much it is for. Do not answer with a number. Answer with something like, "It's a really attractive offer, but I really enjoy being here. Does the company feel the same about me?" If the answer is positive, then you need to reply with "That's good to hear, I would love to continue my career here. Please take some time to consider adjusting my compensation so that I can throw away this other offer." Again, you will be asked for a number. a fair reply is that "I'm sure you can understand that I don't want to sell myself short. If your offer is close to the other one I will gladly stay." Again - don't share the number, and don't lie about it either.

If you have an offer from another company, take it. Putting aside the fact that Cisco’s a miserable company to work for and adds no value to your resume, Cisco would have to give you a lifestyle changing increase to keep you happy long term. We know that won’t happen. Count your lucky stars and go.

if you have made a decision to leave a company, the likelihood of getting a salary increase is possible but the likelihood of leaving 6 months from now is strong as the decision to leave has already been made so there is no little reason for your current employer to try to convince you otherwise through an increase in pay.

In other words, fuhgettaboudit.