Thread regarding IBM layoffs

Getting around the consultation rules

WIBM: It looks like GTS UK is trying to get around the consultation rules by informing each "business unit" eg IS Non Delivery that the amount of people needed to be made redundant is under 20..... therefore no consultation. Not sure if this is legal when they are making so many people across GTS redundant??

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Post ID: @OP+13HAcxUu

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LOL @1rve – IBM gonna IBM....

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Post ID: @2ggm+13HAcxUu

IBM does not file warm notices in the US even when 50 or more (the threshold) is met. They also found a unique way around California's vacation laws. So this wouldn't be surprising.

IBM gonna IBM....

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Post ID: @1rve+13HAcxUu

Our part of GTS UK is holding a 45-day consultation (so 100+ redundancies). Has OP perhaps mis-read or missed an email? The one we got was very opaquely written. It is of course possible some id–t manager is playing silly beggars but I'd be surprised.

https://www.gov.uk/redundancy-your-rights/consultation

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Post ID: @1kgo+13HAcxUu

If IBM would spend as much effort doing new R&D as it does trying to bend rules and fool shareholders then maybe they would not have to. That is to say, if they actually created something new and competitive and interesting then they would not have to attempt these sleight-of-hand tricks.

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Post ID: @fwj+13HAcxUu

Could someone elaborate on this rule? I'm on a long term US GTS project with less than 20 IBMers. What is the redundancy rule and how is it defined in the US?

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Post ID: @ofq+13HAcxUu

Just curious are these UK rules or EU rules, and if brexit puts the validity of the rules in question?

It will be interesting to see if they try the same shenanigans in other EU countries.

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Post ID: @wig+13HAcxUu

Hmmm yet another trick

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