I'm curious when the first group of lawsuits against UP over covid 19 will start coming in. With the company's nonexistent attendance policy, you have to come to work, or risk being disciplined. The first person who contracts covid19 at work will own the place.
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No managers like you that want to fire sick people are the reasons there are laws and protections such as fmla.
a doctor's note has never been ok. maybe it worked in some places, but not in all locations. if you say otherwise you're full of sh–. not talking about coronavirus but just in general. plenty of people have still gotten charged with attendance despite having a note from the doctor. if you deny this fact you are dishonest. the only way to truly protect yourself is by having FMLA.
Trainmen template
MANAGER’S NAME,
In light of the newly enacted TE&Y Attendance Policy effective March 1, 2020, wherein there is no criteria for time off due to sickness or injury; I submit the following:
On —DATE(S)—, I —NAME— (EMPLOYEE #) was unable to work due to sickness or injury resulting in my reasonable need to take leave per agreement. Article 54; Section C; Paragraph 3 of the Red Book states:
“Trainmen who are absent because of sickness or injury will be on an automatic leave of absence until they are able to return to service”
Accordingly, you are hereby notified of my reasonable need for time off permitted by agreement. Any points assessed related to this absence under said policy is inappropriate and therefore a grievance under Article 58 of the Red Book and our Discipline Agreement dated November 16, 2006.
Seems as if you cant read, I'm saying a legit reason i.e. you or your kids doctors appointment. NLR HR doesn't want them, doesn't care to see them. Your doctors note, that Fritz himself said would be accepted, now and as they all ways have would be excused. That is not the case. Let me type that again. A doctors note just as it always has will be an excusable absence, per Fritz. NLR says no, so who is correct Fritz or our HR rep.
You’ve obviously never worked at a real company with paid sick leave. People don’t just use up every sick day they have just because they have it. If you’re afraid of that then perhaps UP should look at who they are hiring and why they can’t get better quality applicants.
Yeah. And if I want to call off sick to take a few days off in Vegas with my buds, why should I get penalized? This company is crazy with their demands. We shouldn’t even have to call in sick. They should notice when we don’t show up.
@ycd+13YdX0jU Exactly. These people just don’t get it. You can get fired for laying off two days in a row now depending on what type of board you’re on and they may not even take the doctors note. Then they want to talk about getting a medical leave of absence. Ok that’s fine if you got the coronavirus but what if you just take a few days off for a cold out of an abundance of caution you want a medical leave of absence for that? Lol.
Ycd, you’re right, those aren’t excused. And that isn’t a problem if you miss work once in a blue moon. If you’re missing work continually, then it becomes an issue. And then you have strike 1, strike 2, then you’re out. At that investigation, you’ll have a chance to prove that they’re firing you over BS that won’t fly in arbitration. All that s—s, but it doesn’t mean anyone will be fired if they follow the protocol after being quarantined.
You shouldn’t need a medical leave of absence just to take a few days off if you have a cold out of precaution due to the current situation. You are obviously a mo–n and I’m not sure why you’re on this site as you’re not going to change anyone’s mind. Go away and play with your train set.
Since some of you are so smart, tell me the policy for being sick at your location. Not talking about coronavirus, just in general, if you are sick or have to take your child to a doctors visit. Where I work those are not excused, are those days excused with doctors notes at you locations?
I don’t see it either. And nobody has been fired for it. I think they are corn fused.
Except the latest town hall broadcast said to follow CDC guidelines, to contact the health department if you have it or have been in contact with someone with it, that you can get a MLOA if a doctor keeps you out, and that workers that get quarantined from occupational exposure will get paid. Not sure what they’re negligent about.
ok you can testify at the lawsuit in UP's defense. you are obviously an ignorant UP official living in Omaha land. laying off sick during the coronavirus pandemic shouldn't cause a person to get fired.
These have got to be a couple of the most ridiculous comments I’ve heard. Of course violations of attendance policy is punitive. Otherwise why have a policy? There’s a d–g and alcohol policy too. And a violence in the workplace policy. And a blue flag policy. Any policy that is violated is punitive. It’s up to you to comply. Nowhere in the policy does it say you can’t be off sick. Now don’t be so ignorant.
exactly. and will it count as a work place injury? we wouldn't have had to come to work sick had it not been for the punitive attendance policy. it was a pandemic and we caught it at work because of the lack of preparations and safeguards. thanks for bringing this topic up.