I pray and hope for those of us that want to stay working from home can permanently. I’ve been become so comfortable being home that I believe it’s safer. I’m doing the same job as I would be doing in the call center. I’m saving on gas! My compute to and from was almost a hour. If you work in a call center you wouldn’t have to worry about others coming to work sick if your at home.
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Well, your comfort is all that should matter.
- 9% of employees say they don’t want to work from home and are less productive. I’m an insider on the anonymous pulse survey results and I’m here to tell you the truth. Brought to you by CNN
“91% percent of employees reported on last Pulse survey that they had no impediments to working from home, and that they were more productive.”
Sooo, nobody challenged this poster on his supposed inside knowledge of 91%?
You must be a pulse survey manager to have this exact number. I say it’s 10% by just gauging my 5 offices that I represent. We must be most of that 9% who’s being difficult. Or most offices feel the same as us and you’re full of it. 91% lol
"Now that millions of employees have dipped their toes into the world of remote work, a decent portion of them may not want to go back once coronavirus-related restrictions ease up. Some 60% of U.S. workers told Gallup that they'd prefer to work from home as much as possible even after the pandemic calms, The New York Times reports. It's easy to see why: No need to spend time and money commuting, you can escape coworkers when you need to focus, and you have more control over your day. Granted, not all workers have the option to skip the office. But for those who do, this shift may be a permanent one."
Your party is almost over spattoons, office will reopen real soon hahaha.
Work from home is a great benefit, but executives hate it. Executives are hell bent on "centers of excellence". There are some people who abuse it, but given the existing video, instant messaging, and document collaboration tools that have been in place for 2 plus years, there is no reason to eliminate work from home program.
91% percent of employees reported on last Pulse survey that they had no impediments to working from home, and that they were more productive. The executives know what the real results were. I can't understand why Hans decided to lie to all of us and try to convince us that majority of employees didn't want to work from home.
Sure, times have changed. Exactly. Start the RIFs here, pay management less by employing them remotely overseas in India or Bangladesh. Then they can monitor the people working from home from over there.
Hey, times have changed.
I supported the move to work from home for years. We have great reps and they are very capable of doing it. Nothing wrong with enjoying it and saying it out loud. We employ adults perfectly capable of the work from home experience. It's about time. It's not about the union. Times have changed.
The Decline Of Unions Is Good News
Monday, January 27, 2020
The United States Department of Labor released a report last week that chronicled the continued decline of the American labor movement in 2019. In our boom economy, more than 2.1 million new jobs were added to the market last year, but the number of unionized workers fell by 170,000. The percentage of union workers, both public and private, fell from 10.5 percent to 10.3 percent, or roughly 14.6 million workers out of 141.7 million. The percentage of unionized workers dipped even lower in the private sector, from about 20 percent in 1983 to 6.2 percent of workers in 2019
Unions are monopoly institutions that raise wages through collective bargaining, not productivity improvements. The ensuing higher labor costs, higher costs of negotiating collective bargaining agreements, and higher labor market uncertainty all undercut the gains to union workers just as they magnify losses to nonunion employers, as well as to the shareholders, suppliers, and customers of these unionized firms. They also increase the risk of market disruption from strikes, lockouts, or firm bankruptcies whenever unions or employers overplay their hands in negotiation. These net losses in capital values reduce the pension fund values of unionized and nonunionized workers alike.
Unions are a DYING breed
The US Bureau of Labor Statistics's latest available data on annual union membership, released on Jan. 22, shows that 10.3% of American workers were in unions, down from 10.5% in 2018. ... In the private sector, 6.2% of the workforce, or 7.5 million workers, belonged to a union, compared to 6.4% the year before.
Jan 22, 2020
Let’s aim for 100 replies before the website takes this down😂
"Pay them no mind..." he says as he pays them mind.
Can't make this stuff up.
I have worked from home since I became senior analyst 12 years ago. Its great no commute, no need to put on a monkey suit.
Entitled wire pullers are just bitter and jealous. Pay them no mind as they will never have the luxury as we do.
@2cjm+14Kfj8AP, if this pandemic has proven anything, it has proven how important home-based broadband is. Don't fret, the future of telecom workers is insanely secure, as this past month has proven.
Sleep tight scabby
Well taxes are going up next year. Teachers, toll workers, custodians, garbage men, and janitors need a raise and their pensions funded.
Wondering where Verizon workers fit in to this?
Oh yeah... they dont😂
Go to bed. The union will be here for years. You won’t. And there is nothing you can do about it. 5G won’t work like it supposed to for years. Many years. We will all be long retired and you will be RIFd within the next year. Sleep tight.
“People in public unions pay dues too, funding their unions.”
Do you have a financial breakdown of this and how these public funds go directly to the locals that are affiliated with Verizon?
"CWA which is a private union funded by its members. Not a public union funded by tax payers."
People in public unions pay dues too, funding their unions.
How does the tax payer( public) pay for the members of CWA in Verizon?
"...Not a public union funded by tax payers."
What are you talking about?
Unions are only in trouble because millennials have no backbone. They are snowflakes that melt before sticking up for their rights.
This thread was originally talking about CWA which is a private union funded by its members. Not a public union funded by tax payers.
New employees still enjoy many many union benefits for 15-25 bucks a pay that they would never ever get from Comcast, directv, dish, etc...
New members were just cable guys who now make twice the money and have a great benefit package. The companies that they came from didn’t give them retiree benefits, double time, twice the wage and an actual career. They can actually plan to retire as oppose to working at a non union company. So what are the few benefits in return? Seems to me that twice the salary is enough but good thing there’s more.
As far as seniority, way to forget about the people who fought through many years of grievances, strikes and daily battles with management. Seniority is respect and it goes with the territory. The fact that new guys come in at top rate is a slap in the face to us. They may have been cable guys but they have no clue about our copper plant(that still needs maintained) or the fiber optic system. Then we have to train a guy making the same rate as us who knows squat. We tell new guys that there’s no prize in running. Running isn’t gonna save your job if there’s a lay-off. Running is only a safety hazard and will get u in trouble when you cut corners. You can tell them this until you’re blue in the face but they don’t care. Like I said, no backbone.
Verizon has never laid off our workforce in exchange for higher wages. Again, this is a private union and not public.
Our current contract has been extended to 2023 that most people voted for collectively. So why wouldn’t you pay dues for an extension of all the great benefits that you voted for? I’m sure you could do better at comcast😂
We don’t have to deal with last hired first fired since we are associates. VZ and Union have a buyout that older people can take and a lot do to actually save there younger brothers from a lay-off. I see it every time. You have a senior who may have a few years left but knows it’s possible he could save 1 member from a lay-off. So he takes it.
That’s brotherhood.
Verizon workers do not change lightbulbs either. If you want to use a real example, use a service technician and a lineman. Do you think a service tech should change telephone poles or hang backbone? Do you think a lineman should do fios installs? This is why we have titles. Follow your title and don’t do another’s job.. period. As far as a manager doing craft work, it’s pretty clear that managements job is to manage.
The union numbers are only shrinking because newer generations don’t understand how beneficial it is to collectively bargain. There is power in numbers. Together we stand, divided we fall.
Dues really blow - we do not benefit at all.
To the only numbers that matter to me is what ends up in my 401k and bank account.
Unions are in trouble. Membership is declining, public pension plans are dangerously underfunded, and young workers are not interested in diverting a portion of their paychecks to dues that offer them few benefits in return. Half the states have passed “right to work” legislation that says that workers cannot be forced to join a union as a condition of employment. In the face of these challenges, the union membership rate has fallen to a 100-year low.
In 1983, the first year in which comparable union membership data are available, 20 percent of employees were unionized. By 1990, 16 percent of employees were unionized. The unionized share currently stands at 11 percent.
Unions care, first and foremost, about seniority. It doesn't matter if you are faster, better at something, or have more education, or it just plain makes good business sense–everything is pretty much based off of seniority.
Likewise, unions are generally last-hired first-fired. So if a company has to lay off 10% of the workforce in exchange for higher wages, the vast majority of the senior union members will be fine with that because they know full well they're in the upper 90% and only newer union employees will be affected (so much for union brotherhood).
Unions are there to represent current workers–that's kind of the point–but they have no obligation to protect future workers. Many times, they will take short-term gains for themselves for long-term pain, because a lot of the workers know full well they won't be around when that happens.
More generally, because of a lot of the above reasons, unions are very inefficient. Because of seniority, the best people can't be allocated to the job they are most productive at, and the least productive members can't be laid off. Because of how most contracts are, you run into a lot of b—s—like no one being allowed to change a light bulb because that should be a union job, and it's an actual violation of the contract if a non-union person does it, so instead of a manager doing it in 90 seconds someone gets paid time and a half to do it two weeks from now. It s—s because there's no reason why unions can't be both fair and pro-worker and be efficient, but unions refuse to change or adapt, and thus their union numbers are shrinking EVERY year.
People love saying how union dues are so bad. It’s hilarious. I love paying dues. It’s cheap. 23 bucks a week for retiree benefits, pension, raises guaranteed every year, CPE bonus every year, grievance process so managers don’t take advantage and play favorites or harass you, doubletime, strike option, etc.... man the list goes on. Oh yeah, and I’m at 40 per hour while nonunion companies like Comcast are half of that.
My pension will crush your 401k like a bug!
Oh wait, my 401k will crush it too!!!
Y’all y’all y’all...blah blah blah. ITS YOU ALL!
"Outside plant technicians are why contracts are extended/made. Office personnel are a dime a dozen.".............but OPTs are out numbered by unionized call center " office personnel". Makes a big difference when it's time to negotiate and vote on strike authorization and contract negotiations.
We might have some respect for you if you unionized. Until then, you don't have a valid opinion.
Grow up, there 33,000 union members left and the company has a total of 135,00 employees, do the math..... your number keep going down every year even with union representation.
@1vrg+14Kfj8AP amen. Not sure why they are here at all since, as they brag, they can't be laid off. Just want to stir up trouble.
VZ wireless has their own layoff site exactly like this you saps. Please post there. Thanks in advance.
These comments! Rolling my eyes! Many of us who’ve worked in the call center for yearrrssss would like the opportunity! When I say years I’m talking 10+. Y’all newbies can go have several seats!!! Seems as if the only ones being negative are the ones with the unions! Go pay your dues and complain to your union rep! Y’all always taking things out of context! Someone comes on here and express their safer at work but you want to be in the building. Then gooooo!!! Because guess what In the building, at home, or even at the stores you can still lose your job!!!!
I think the “eliminate 45 and 60 lunch” poster was being sarcastic. Good one😂
Also, the “y’all” poster must be wireless if they’re non-union.
Alrighty then, the ones commenting about the union go s— on lemon! Majority of us in the call center are not unionized!!! Y’all sound pitiful and bitter. How about y’all union a$$ go back to work in the center and risk getting Coronavirus!!!!!
That moment when you trying to have a positive outlook on this situation but y’all s—ers see opposite. And this is who we having talking to customers! Smdh!
“We can eliminate 45 and 60 minute lunches as there's no need to leave to get food”
Julia Child, is that you? How about we eliminate our bargained-for wages and benefits while you’re at it? How self-centered of you to assume that people who would be working from home might actually want to step out to get something prepared to eat, as opposed to cooking at home. What a sap.
If you want to be “safer at home” and work from home, go work for Comcast, Altice, Spectrum, etc. in a non-represented, or non-unionized company for much less pay. No one is stopping you, if working from home is so important to you.
Wow this escalated quickly. Someone just posting about how they feel safer working from home and has been enjoying it, to people fighting and arguing over unions blah blah blah. Man people are awful.
Outside plant technicians are why contracts are extended/made. Office personnel are a dime a dozen.
Company is seeing better attendance since wah started.
@1ruz+14Kfj8AP, you're changing the words of the voicer you're responding to. He or she said "many unions, powerful unions, are affiliated with dispersed workforces" and you're responding with, "’I'm eager to know who these companies are that have such powerful unions with people working from home."
IBEW, a strong union, has member electricians all over the place, working for numerous outfits, yet, somehow, they manage. Maybe it's ingenuity in adopting to challenge? Have you have no confidence or faith that other unions could be equally clever and inventive? Or is it that they, for whatever reason, consciously opt not to be?