Thread regarding Macy's Inc. layoffs

At least you get hourly executive benefits unlike leads who get jacks**t for doing the exact same amount of work, if not more. I'm mad at Macy's for this already.

"That's Macy mentality. But the thing is, we go to work every day in the hopes of earning things like PTO in exchange for the time/effort we give . We aren't doing this job out of the goodness of our hearts (with the understanding that it's important to care about our store and coworkers). And you say others have sacrificed– again, that's Macy's speak: sacrifice for Macy's and don't expect anything in return. Macy's got in your head and is making you think you're beholden to them and don't deserve quid pro quo."

The OP's rant about PTO landed the wrong way for me. Compensation is the reason people show up for work. PTO is just a slice of overall compensation.

I agree with the above quote 100%. I worked at Macy's for a season and also spent several years at JCP. The idea that employees must sacrifice their time and integrity for the company is pervasive in retail.

You know what else is funny? This mentality extends to the company-customer relationship. The customer MUST have our credit card. Our cashiers MUST pester customers for personal information. Hourly associates are labelled as failures if they don't do these things successfully. You say the customer was genuinely disinterested? Nonsense! You're betraying the tenets of modern retail!

It's complicated for me. The furloughs and possible job losses down the road are very damaging for people. On the other hand, I almost feel like certain department store chains deserve to go out of business.

I see this as a battle of two mentalities: millennial vs Macy's. The millennial view is to be somewhat self-centered. What's in it for me? Give me what I want right now!

However, this post by a (presumably) non-millennial troubled me:

"Once the term millennial was used as identification I had to laugh out loud. Typical, must have a trophy or in this case PTO and if not you go stomping off. Many others have sacrificed as much and likely more than you. Are they fools for doing it, possibly but it was their choice."

That's Macy mentality. But the thing is, we go to work every day in the hopes of earning things like PTO in exchange for the time/effort we give . We aren't doing this job out of the goodness of our hearts (with the understanding that it's important to care about our store and coworkers). And you say others have sacrificed– again, that's Macy's speak: sacrifice for Macy's and don't expect anything in return. Macy's got in your head and is making you think you're beholden to them and don't deserve quid pro quo.

Maybe it’s time for you to leave if that is your biggest concern right now!!!

I respect your feelings however could we take a moment to pray for our country and our company. There are thousands dying and in desperate circumstances.

Not sure how I feel about the OP’s posts. People with a sense of reality and boundaries should realize that corporations will cut employees in a heartbeat under the right circumstances.

On the other hand, I’ve worked with many retail supervisors. A fair number of them were hugely unimpressive and obsessed with their job title. Their bad behaviors ran the gamut from “delegating “ most of their work to treating hourly associates with disdain.

The corona situation could serve as a point for retail employees to change direction. But we have to be realistic about moving to new jobs or industries. Good jobs require skills...and being someone’s brown-nosing pet isn’t always one of them. Neither is massively inflating your own contributions.

Besides, most decent jobs offer some form of PTO.

Once the term millennial was used as identification I had to laugh out loud. Typical, must have a trophy or in this case PTO and if not you go stomping off. Many others have sacrificed as much and likely more than you. Are they fools for doing it, possibly but it was their choice.

Take your own advice, leave and leave now. Do not even bother going back.

Go invest more of yourself someplace else and see how that works out. I respectfully wish you well. However, your me me me attitude have no leverage at M and soon you will discover you will have no leverage anyplace else. As a millennial and any other generation for that matter, you are a dime a dozen in this and any company. Every year M will hire another flock of sheep for the EDP program just like you that have no clue of what they are getting themselves into.

The writing is on the wall. With all these director level executives taking a pay cut there will be no place for you and many others like you. As it was stated last month this furlough/layoff has nothing to do with seniority or performance. Don’t you or anyone else forget that and think you will all be called back automatically. If you are a boat rocker consider yourself gone.

I certainly hope that all who want a job to return to will have that opportunity but it is not likely. My guess is M will implement a 20% reduction across the board or more just to get back open. For those who want to move on, again I wish you well.

Yes there are hourly executive jobs. Non exempt from overtime. Hourly paid and executive benefit level.
RTM, Visual Manager, ASTS, Sales Supervisor, Jewelry Sales Supervisor, probably more. No they are not going away.

Check out the FLSA!

Don’t get too wrapped up in that. Someone at Progress Place just hasn’t gone through and changed names in the system yet because that position was probably cut when the change came through.

wrong, wrong, wrong,
I am on the Executive Schedule and receive Bonuses just like my manager. My profile reads Executive Supervisor

Not called executive anymore. You are referred to as a colleague now. You are an hourly colleague. Change happened more than a year ago now. Otherwise I agree with everything you are saying. Better that everyone covers their own a– because Macy’s doesn’t care about you.

Yes, there are such things. I am an hourly executive, RTW Supervisor.

hourly executive????

For starters the company has invested heavily into my store. I know that as a fact.
Secondly, my benefits don’t come from Macy’s.
Third, be grateful that I have a job????
This is coming from sheep people who refuse to get off of their butts and look for other jobs because you’re so invested LOL. There are so many other companies hiring. STOP BEING AFRAID OF CHANGE!
The same people saying “be grateful to have a Job” are the same people who invest 20 years of their life with the company and then gets the boot!!! “Thanks for 20 years of slavery and not spending the holidays with your family, or for taking only one weekend off a month but the BUDGET IS TIGHT so time to let you go so we can underpay millennials to do your job.”
By that time, getting a job after a certain age is difficult and I see it EVERYDAY!!! It’s not the practice that I follow but let’s honestly admit. Unless it’s Q4 and we start hiring covid-19 positive applicants Because we need people to ring.

So as a millennial I’ll tell u that I know where my priorities are and it’s certainly not gonna be investing more of myself in a company that can’t meet me halfway. I love the company, I really do. But if you work on the level that I do to see the amount of cuts Macy’s make on an annual basis... you’d be concerned about your place with the company too! Especially next year :) I’m using my furloughed time to practice the violin so I can play it on the PA system when the 2020 fiscal year is over and the company starts making their “due to coronavirus hardship cuts.”

Use your employment to get you the experience you need and leave. I’ve seen it happen to so many people who never call out sick, who put in every effort they have. Every frigging month it’s some c-ap. ODS, F&F, VIP, and a black out of holidays for 3 months out of the year. So many restrictions to how you live your daily life.
I’m sorry for those of you who see life differently. But my most valuable asset is MY TIME. I give 130% to everything I do for my store and the company. Not because I have too, but because I truly enjoy my job and the people I work with. Money can’t buy that however at the end of the day I know that it’s just a job and not a career. But I expect at least some sort of reciprocation. Ya can’t have the same old sob story at the end of the fiscal year. It’s like a funeral every single time. There is nowhere to go in this company. Except out :)
I still love the company but it’s my truth and my outlook to life. Soooo yeah, my time off is precious. I personally have no fear of losing my job. Life goes on for everyone.

Ummmm... If we don't work for 4 to 6 weeks then we shouldn't expect any accrual of PTO time for those four to six weeks. Be grateful that this is a furlough at this point, and the company is paying for the entire cost of your benefits! I'll take a loss of 2020 eligible PTO to get to go back to work. if we don't get to go back to work, then you've lost all of your PTO!!!!!

Now that beats all! Better be grateful you have a job!

Uhhhh you may not have a store to go back to thus no job. SO at this time I would not be worrying about PTO.......I would be worried where my next check comes from. Man priorities

Not sure what your point is ? If you don’t get pto which we are aren’t getting. You’re out ? Who cares !