10% of CDKi to go - The cull has started
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Not according to marshals but if that's true then if pinewood are worse than keyloop the industry is truly sc--wed
You said the same about Marshalls leaving, yet they've decided to stay with Keyloop, the best decision in my opinion, and I'm sure Lookers will also do a u turn when they realise Pinewood aren't as good as keyloop.
Lookers to Pinewood is a big loss. Keyloop are easy pickings with very poor service and huge loss of capability. Ever since FP got involved they thought they could run roughshod over customers as too difficult to leave. Well another deathnail to KLT muppets.
Anyone noticed that they do not ask questions on reward/recognition any longer in the Peakon surveys because they know the answers just bring the scores down and HR/KLT are desperately trying to lift the scores. Just shows the honesty/integrity of these people and don’t get me talking about the Glass door HR happy clapper fake reviews. Do they really believe people are fooled by this laughable BS?
https://cardealermagazine.co.uk/publish/pinewood-technologies-signs-deal-for-lookers-owner-to-roll-out-automotive-intelligence-platform/312553?utm_source=Car+Dealer+Magazine&utm_campaign=d873d516ad-CD_Daily_Briefing_14_February_2025&utm_medium=email&utm_term=0_e969a44e74-d873d516ad-53675260&mc_cid=d873d516ad&mc_eid=7e30e7832d
Another one bites the dust.
"Organising to Accelerate” - dig your own hole as it is otherwise known.
Be bold, be authentic, be out of a job!
Its like a bad addition of Rainbow the children's tv show from back in the day, you can match all the characters up with the members of the klt and it's easy to work out who Bungle is, talk to the people who have been pushed out or just chosen to leave its a poor state of affairs
“Organising to Accelerate” a sale? Redundancies? KLT bonuses? More bureaucracy?
It’ hard for me to understand, but I have also only worked with leadership for 10 years, in the company for 20 years, and within IT for 30 years, so what do I know?
Good advice below. Also be very aware of the game HR will play. They position themselves as your friend helping you get the best deal possible. They will tell you that you got things others never had. They make you feel like you have won. It’s all a huge sham. They will sc--w you with a smile saving the company as much as possible.
Thank me later for this post.
First place to go for advice for any UK staff with employment issues:
https://www.acas.org.uk/advice
This link is worth a read as you are able to represent yourself at a tribunal (for things like sham redundancies, general wrong doing, etc):
https://www.citizensadvice.org.uk/work/employment-tribunal/employment-tribunals/
Look at this link for past and future judgements (you may have to search for previous company names or current company names ( see company house for filing records for aliases, etc):
https://www.gov.uk/employment-tribunal-decisions
Remember, companies want you to leave and go quietly with minimal fuss and not gaining bad press for themselves. Often a back hander is easily accepted by the person not in the know of basic employment law. You don't have to accept below the bare minimum. The law is on your side, fight the power!
Regarding redundancies in Germany and Denmark, there is a general plan for all countries in EU to make all but Tier1support, local PS consultants and local sales redundant. KLT is aware it will take years, but the plan is there. So all who are in management of some kind, developers, Infrastructure, tier 2 or 3 support etc, expect your job to move either to Asia or UK. External contractors will also take over in some instances.
Uk worker is d-mb. Being used. They dont see it. You are being replaced in the while. Soon you will get made redudant! Just ask your boss if they have plan to replace you. Sorry telling you
Ooh bump up a recent post on here and do remember this piece of BS:
"We have no intention or desire to sell or offload individual divisions of the business. A potential sale may occur in the next 2 to 3 years, but it will involve the company as a whole. Restructuring is essential to ensure we are well-positioned for the future and to continue providing an excellent experience for our customers. Recent redundancies were part of a strategic shift and are not as extensive or widespread as some might suggest."
What about Germany or Denmark, are there also layoffs planned?
Our comrades in the UK . Have some respect for yourself. They are closing you down soon. You will lost your job. Do the minimum and focus your effort searching for new job. The pay off will be minimum they can get away with. You are worth more than the way you are being treated. That meeting with HR is coming.
KLT are looking to sell the remaining hardware operations/field engineering by Q2 2025
Re: Bristol question all the people mentioned have left the business. The operation remains but not for long as KLT are actively looking to get rid soon.
I would guess not given that they all appear to be males, poweful women only employed these days, whatever that means? (Unless you are on old chum of TK).Previous experience and ability to actually do the job is not important.
Engineering and Product
If operation Zong is to be believed. Where is the axe going to strike next? P.S. - sales - consultancy - support/ - hardware - hosting?
Stay of execution for the hosting locations then
Hosting leadership were told numerous times that their timelines for the migration project were way too aggressive, especially for Rev8 and Drive, but the "we've done this before, we know best" mentality that is prevalent amongst new hires won through. That is until the harsh reality of our customers and our business hit home and now they've had to back pedal. I hope this doesn't impact jobs as this pushes costs up more than had been expected, but I fear that won't be the case.
Lesson to be learnt - Listen to the folks who've been doing this for the last 30+ years!
Don’t worry Jeff, you won’t get kicked. Instead some hard working persons in customer facing departments like support or PS will have to pay for your and ELT’s stupidity.
It’s now our customers fault that Keyloop have to extend the period of migration to AWS. I like how our leadership take no responsibility for their failures and blame our customers instead. No wonder that the company is bleeding customers like never before, something that later this year will cost hundreds of good and hard working Keyloop personnel their job
Don’t get me wrong. I’m not against women in leading positions in companies like Keyloop. But I am against putting women into leadership just because they are women, and not because they are skilled - this what Keyloop does at the moment.
Some would say men have been doing this for centuries and yes that is true and also wrong. But men are not the ones who are fighting against discrimination - women are. So this what Keyloop does, is actually making more damage to the reputation of Keyloop and the women in the company and industry. It very unfortunate!
But expected when you have a leadership, HR and communication department that live and act as they are in the early 1900’s Britain.
LOL-Great post Jack.
Pinewood are better than Keyloop.
Pinewood! They aren't any better, I've spoken to customers who are with pinewood now that were with CDK/Keyloop who massively regret jumping ship, but they're now tied into a contract so are stuck!
Keyloop might be far from perfect but are still miles ahead of Pinewood! You're a joker if you think otherwise.
It’s sickening to see these party trips celebrating failure. Massive revenue miss in 2024 and everyone else suffers for it with delayed pay rises, low bonuses, headcount cuts and cost cutting. These are the people who should be cut if they’re unable to sell anything along with the HR business class party people.
I have never seen so many lick ar$@ fools posting LinkedIn corporate miss information. Why do they they do it…. Keyloop changing the automotive landscape, they are no longer relevant. Wonderful Lisbon, desperate fools. Zong = Gone. Pinewood AI are taking all your customers and it’s so easy, mark my words.
Some corporate shafting no doubt about to happen!
Some details please, rather than just a random statement.
What is operation Zong?
It’s a sad week in the history ADP/CDK/Keyloop. Operation “Zong” initiated. We aware fellow non-UK colleagues.
Keyloop was being described as being like an oil tanker back when it was ADP, long before before the vampires took over.
They have always been willing to listen to customers if they have deep pockets and willing to pay the price. Much love.
The leadership at the time of ADP and CDK all said exactly the same, that the most common complaints were about being slow and expensive. That’s why they did “fuelling for growth” and “dare to be different”, although really nothing changed when it came to those complaints.
Keyloop is introducing a new process - Customer Voices. The voice of our customers are currently saying “Keyloop is like a supertanker: Slow, Expensive and inflexible”. I’m wondering whether the new process will change that picture that of us? Probably not, it will only strengthening that view, that customers already have of us.
The voice product won't be missed by Keyloop. Cost the business millions in lost revenue, deployment and support costs over the last five years, primarily due to the clown/s who recently took over running the product. Built themselves an empire at the detriment of the hard working few. Can't see GreenIP (Evolve) being around for very long, along with the people being forced out the door.
Well there goes telephony, bundled off to green ip or something like that pity those who have been told like it or lump it your going, especially with some of the people involved, mind you they might be better off than the rest of us left with dross loop