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The End of AME (AME NPD, AME PE)

The AME organization is no more. Another senseless re-org, restructuring that does not improve anything but adds another layer of garbage and reporting. All under pretense of factory improvement and streamlining. The same leadership that keeps changing demands and tactics all to suit their bonuses, never even brought factory leadership (directors) into re-org meetings and discussions. Just Clueless!!!

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There are only five left in SB. 17 of 22 got shown the door.

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Post ID: @7oqq+15QZp8Ip

Bingo @1xbt. The AMEs that had true hands on manufacturing experience are mostly gone by now. AMEs the last few years simply rubberstamp ECNs and work on NVA things like PFMEAs and other Flawless Launch junk that came from the TS side. Early supplier engagement = good. Everything else about FL = bad.

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Post ID: @3jpe+15QZp8Ip

I wonder if the new leader of ISC Engineering knows what he has gotten into. AME is decimated and replaced with PSE day-dreamers who do nothing more than steal the credit off from others.

Such a waste of a great org. Kudos to those that still remain and hang in there. It will only be too soon that this group overturns and goes belly up again.

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Post ID: @1ewk+15QZp8Ip

This will unravel quickly especially in areas of critical processes, safety risks will skyrocket. They are leaning out to prepare for sale. This is how they prep sites up for closure, rape them of resources then sell it as a bad business due to performance. MM is the guy leading it.

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Post ID: @1qbr+15QZp8Ip

When nobody at the top came from below, how would anyone know the value of AME? They therefore assumed it had NO value so why keep it?
I guess they are about to find out whether that assumption is true or not. Having come from there myself, I know the line will be a huge CF of tanking RTY, and shortly after that, RG City. Then watch the customer hemorrhaging. Having removed all the supports, collapse is inevitable.

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Post ID: @1lak+15QZp8Ip

AME PE started to die the day they let finance people (I.e Paul E) and non aero folks (I.e automotive rejects) become the senior directors rather than building a pipeline of real manufacturing engineering from the factory. All top performers started leaving. This got worse when they merged Yr/yr a watered down AME NPD organization. NPD initially was a great group full of ex PE managers and senior product engineers. All at staff level, true band 4s skill set of manufacturing engineers. MM taking over ISC and k–ling all band 4s in the factory did not help, the deep knowledge was lost at each site. each site got reduced to about 1 band 4 per census, being the AME PE manager. These managers were then all abused and treated like sh– working 10-12hr days yr/yr along with their teams with no OT pay and took turns being piped rather than giving decent raises. Positioned that used to be kept for 5-10 years became 1-3 year roles. Other aero companies mostly pay straight pay OT. So good performers kept leaving with no backfilling leaving lower performers Or folks with bad behaviors behind.

All That knew the product lines and capital needed to lean things out for new product launches were gone. Slowly the group via attrition all became ISC project engineers or SAP experts with little to no knowledge of any manufacturing. Hiring in a bunch of useless rejects from Ford/GM...into AME NPD also made it worse as they made horrible cost estimates having no understanding of Aerospace. (i.e A350). Merging in TS was another disaster nail in the coffin. They forced their useless PFMEA process on Aero which is a performance craftsmen environment. Rather than PFMEA training, aero should have continued apprenticeship program to maintain a skilled labor force in PE and mechanic pools. The leadership thought you could PFMEA all problems away and then put products that requires mechanics 10 years min experience to build at regular high RTY to Mexico, Asia and other low cost areas where they have at time 50% employee turnover and sc-ap yards next door.

For years we had good front line supervisors and managers in PE but VPs kept cutting resources to get their own bonuses and deprived the America sites of capital by requiring meeting after meeting.... just to get a measly $5-10k approved to replace broken tools. 6 months later and $50k later in repair MRB costs if some end of year money was not spent they would give you money and then beat you up for not working Xmas holiday to capitalize and close out the project due to India finance incompetence.

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Post ID: @1xbt+15QZp8Ip

5 AMEs at Phoenix Engines

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Post ID: @1kjx+15QZp8Ip

No more women in AME, so much for Diversity.

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Post ID: @1unv+15QZp8Ip

This is just prep for more partnerships with celestica. Or a power grab by some overanxious new leader.

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Post ID: @1erv+15QZp8Ip

AME merger with PSE into ISC engineering creating a mammoth of an organisation. The cuts will continue as there will be less sites in need of their service.

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Post ID: @zzw+15QZp8Ip

5 left? Do you mean at a specific site? I know there's 10 or 12 at Greer and 3 or 4 at RM.

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Post ID: @anm+15QZp8Ip

Heard there are only 5 AMEs left.

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Post ID: @sza+15QZp8Ip

AME wasn't needed in the first place as a separate structure.

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Post ID: @qwo+15QZp8Ip

There probably is no organization now, nor was there before. This is Honeywell, mind you.

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Post ID: @qkm+15QZp8Ip

How is it organized now?

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