I've heard that PIP means the decision has already been made and they are only covering their bases ahead of firing. Is this true? Is there really no way to avoid being fired once you've been put on PIP? Especially if there was no real reason for it and most of it is a stretch, to put it mildly?
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Depends on your relationship with your manager. You can jump through hoops but in the end is his/her final say. A usual practice is the PIP starts out easy then in the final month, they add many requirements to set you up for failure. If you have a good relationship, you may get through it.
XOM improves its demographics with this because the older cohort is more male and more white. This PIP applies to ALL rank groups including executives, ALL SALARY LEVELs equally impacted. For those that survive, opportunities will open up. XOM PIP'd very few people between 2005 and 2020, alot of weak performers built up. Time to cut the Chaff. This will result in fewer than 2500 involuntary cuts plus another 1500 retirements. Only about 5% reduction (since wage people are not Pip due to union rules). People in groups with low activity will be redeployed. Unlike CVX, who lays off high performers in groups with low activity. The big problem is next year. some one ranked 10 to 20% becomes the new PIP target. If you survive: Get to work NOW or start LOOKING for a job
The PIP process is another example of Exxon pulling one of the biggest Judas Iscariot moments of big business this year. This was a betrayal to their workforce due to the companies inability to make solid financial decisions with appropriate attention to the market.
The other people here at correct since this is a separation with pay Texas does not have to honor unemployment but they will still likely file the claim. However, Exxon could decide they have spent enough and start contesting unemployment since the terms “we will not contest unemployment” were not in writing. Remember to request a copy of your separation agreement and have Exxon motorized it. It is the law that they provide it if you request it.
My experience was “trash” just like that of those who came in at the same time I did. I watched as older personnel and minorities were run out of positions for underperforming “drinking buddies”. I saw multiple “favors” being in issued to companies and disguised as strategies in the plants. I was amazed that a super giant would pull these stunts.
Do not feel bad you are not here any longer or fear leaving. It is a blessing not a curse.
I highly recommend researching actual unemployment benefit amounts. In Texas, it’s $521 per week, before taxes. Also: the process of applying is a pain in the booty due to an overloaded system and it takes 3 weeks before you see a dime.
Nearly 13 years. Not sure what to do except cut expenses for now. There are not many industry jobs at the moment.
Geoscience- can we know how long you’ve been with the company? What are you planning on doing?
Middle 1/3 to pip here. It's funny how you go from essential worker to pip this fast. My supervisor told me that unemployment benefits would not be contested if I apply BTW. No plan for pip exists yet if I were to take that route. They sent a strong message to leave for sure. Take the money and run. Time to reinvent myself. Geoscience btw.
If you believe what Exxon Mobile Corporate and their drones said, you are in big trouble.
Totally agree.
As an HR professional... if your upper 1/3 is now magically your bottom 3% you have a significant management problem!
When you move the upper 1/3 down and raise the bottom 3% to meet at 8% it’s a lay-off.
Looks like the death throws of a dying giant trying to grab on to a thin rope.
Loss of leader position in every metric compared to competition, downgraded by the creditors and couldn’t borrow enough so shedding their most experienced people without touching the management that put them there to begin with.
No plan for energy transition.
We have seen this before in other industries.
My heart goes out to those caught in the mix.
Please, everyone, take the severance package if offered. You will not be eligable for unemployment because it is performance based. The layoff has another minus for EM if they were to have integrity and go that route: paying for a share of your unemployment. They absolutely will not do that. Also, the PIP's will be more like 16% to 20% of employees. Out with more expensive CLs, ride the storm, hire new grads hungry and cheap. As for the bias comments: politics, endangered, white, hetero men - times are simply changing due to demographics. Not to say you all have not worked your a– off to get where you are, but please, stop making diversity the villain. Those marginalized in business have worked just as hard, sometimes harder, to get ahead. Oil is volatile, mercurial, and let's face it, on the decline, not due to scarcity, but green technology. If oil could be purely green with carbon capture, etc., the industry would survive. EM moves at a glacial pace. As far as pensions, I would worry about the up and comers taking care of managing pensions. If there is a brain drain, or EM becomes unappealing to young people, pensions are at risk.
As a former supervisor my advise to all PIPs is take 3 months salary please and go celebrate! You will not get out of PIP. Your chances are less than 3%. You will go thru misery! It will be terrible and the worst experience ever. You will gain nothing from PIP experience. Leave your ego out and move on, dont try to prove yourself at this time. Take 3 months off as a gift and move on. And this is just 8-10% and we all know we need to lay off a lot more...we only have one active project (semi-active)...I feel you but take easier way out please.
Cannot even talk to HR. My supervisor needs to handle everything. What a BS.
I have heard about big E being hard to work for but this is bad. I interned with you 10 years ago but ended up going with another major due to a few stories I heard in my third internship (luckily I went to that happy hour) about how they treated older employees. My heart goes out to you all, this is horrible and is clearly a lay-off while trying to save money and accuse the employee instead of the company. I am sure this kind of info will eventually get back around to the industry and the schools they recruit from. Heck now a days good students would be a fool to go into this industry.
No one should ever experience a review that comes as a shock and aw of surprise and gotcha moments like I experienced. I worked hard bring positive change and add value. I was successful and I presented data showcasing these activities. ExxonMobil is the loser here. This new performance review process with a clearly manipulative forced ranking component coupled with unfortunate baseless examples without any context or facts is wrong on so many levels.
Impacted employees have 21 days to decide what to do with a target on their backs, PIP completely unseen, not even bothered to develop yet. No wonder ExxonMobil is sinking as a company. And this is just one example of the reckless and gross inefficiencies that occur daily across the globe. ExxonMobil has written its own obituary. ExxonMobil is hemorrhaging in waste.
Everyone who is PIP’d . I know you Are trying to decide what to do. You may want to take the 3 months guaranteed pay, however, check into It and see if you ride it out and do get fired if you can get unemployment I don’t think you can if you take the 3 months pay. It might pay out better in the end Find counsel to help you.
Everyone who is PIP’d . I know you Are trying to decide what to do. You may want to take the 3 months guaranteed pay, however, check into It and see if you ride it out and do get fired if you can get unemployment I don’t think you can if you take the 3 months pay. It might pay out better in the end Find counsel to help you.
How about age Discrimination in relation to preventing someone who’s over 55 but still needs more years to qualify for the pension?
So from what I understand, it will be very difficult to get out of the PIP program this year. I was hearing at best 5%. The issue is that they need headcount reductions. In a group of 12, they forced retired 2 and pip'ed 2.
I am curious about the distribution of PIPs to tenure with the company. How many newer highers are PIPed?
PIP is this week all others are safe. exxon will save up to 1 billion dollars with the reduction of 10% of work force 7500. A new company no more URC will start on Nov 1st and they want 10% out by then. I have seen some worthless workers spared while hard workers are being PIPed. It is not fair at all and is due to division managers. No one is safe one person was dropped from 50% to 8% because of one missed assignment. Another worker constantly made mistakes, cost the company money and is not PIPed. One worker blew a something though a wall and is still here.
I would caution folks looking for a quick way out to think about unemployment benefits. Since it is not an official layoff, there is little support for unemployment. Resigning also lessens the likelihood you'll be supported with unemployment benefits.
Those who were "put into the PIP bucket", have you been told what your PIP will look like? Also, have you had a chance to talk to the HR? I am trying to get in touch with one of the corporate hrs but have not been successful so far.
Sorry to hear that! I'm getting my feedback in couple weeks or so, I heard PIPs are due to be out by end of this week but not sure how reliable that is.
I also got the PIP speech and I am aware of 3 others - all of us white males over 45. The goal is not just to cut costs, but to improve diversity stats as well. I agree with what a few tother folks have said, it's a popularity contest and the supervisor owns the message, but really does not have much say.
Reply to Anon; I too was ranked very highly in the old bucket system. Last year I was in the up upper 1/3 of bucket 2. This cycle, I missed the cut by the skin of my teeth. Don't blame your supervisor. Although they "own the result", they have very little say. The division management routinely over-rides the supervisors to suite their own agendas. I'm sorry you got caught up in this—not a layoff LAYOFF.
I had mine served today. I am in R&D. No info on what my PIP looks like as it does not exist. I believe they will write up a plan if I accept it. This tells me a lot on what their motivation is.
Did you work in manufacturing or corporate? We're you up in age? Also what is the PIP like? Just trying to get a feel of how bad this may be.
Had my Annual review today. Ive been offered PIP (3 months). Note: I came from upper 1/3 of middle 1/3 last review... so good luck if you were lower!
I was told it is a new process this year. (“You rarely drink the kool-aid ... “in hushed undertones.).
Basically they’re letting people go wo the news releases like other majors.
Someone I knew was PIP'd and was not terminated. I will say that this is an oddity as majority of people I've known that were PIP'd were let go some time later.
Majority of the ones PIP'd were pretty worthless though..
Yes I was on this so called pip program and speak from experience . If you offered with pay to resign do it. I lasted 5 months wish I did. Em is a company for arrogant no common sense dorks who speak broken English. If not watch your back and try to drink the koolaide. But beware it will poison your soul.
A colleague of mine was put on a PIP and it definitely felt like they were being taken through a process they couldn’t turn around. Impossible deadlines and no coaching or support. I often think it’s a process to cover the company as they get rid of people for perceived underperformance.