Currently an intern and have been trying to keep up with the topics here and I can help but to feel anxious about a career with XOM. From experience, have new hires/full time offers been impacted during times like these?
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If your a new hire why come here unless you have no other options. Look at what they are doing to the exact same people as you hired years before you. Look at this and learn. Go elsewhere.
Stay away - They'll put you in areas that have nothing to do with your degree/interests then PIP you leaving you out in the job market with no valuable skills.
@6jcz you mean empco hired last fall and the new hires showed up?
No worries, there won’t be job offers for interns. There is a hiring freeze. If they didn’t rescind the internship offers is because they didn’t want to look bad.
As if all this disfunction and lack of forethought wasn’t bad enough.
I'm obviously biased as I'm a new hire who just got laid off, but like others said, please be careful. I fell for it and believed everything they said about new hires having 2-3 years of safety before the ranking system could seriously affect us. Company loyalty is dead. They do not care about you, they don't care about "starting your career right," nor do they care about "maintaining a long-term outlook." Wherever you go, be it Exxon or elsewhere, watch your back and always be looking for the next career move. God knows that's what I should have been doing this past year.
Run as fast as you can from XOM. Just as the post said before XOM is a heartless corporation. The managers are narcissist and robots.
It may make hiring experienced people more prevalent. As new people who are capable of networking and interviewing may choose to leave. Unfortunately, after the pandemic stabilizes people will soon realize they have been given an impossible amount of work....maybe they will stay put maybe some will quit if the job market allows. Some of this work still must be done & only experienced people maybe be able to fill the gap for technical work. As for managers they will work them until they drop. After several non-technical or unit specific managerial roles the exit opportunities or harder to find.
If I was a new hire i would be on the technical path so that you have some concrete to put on your resume.
I was a new hire in June 2019. Immediately placed in an impossible situation as a contact engineer between a supervisor and a BTL that have no business managing people. I managed to move departments back in May, but that put me in another impossible situation – being assessed by a group that could rank me at the bottom without it affecting their headcount.
My new department valued my work, and I had an incredible final few months. Having a decent supervisor and department head made all the difference. But ultimately it didn't matter. They had zero say in my assessment, and weren't even allowed to go to the meetings. I was let go.
Silver lining: During my review/not-layoff (ha!), I was able to deliver my former supervisor a performance review of his own. It was one of my prouder moments. No regrets. I'll find something much better.
I'd never recommend this company to a new hire. If kissing a– makes you miserable, look elsewhere...because if you don't kiss a– there, you'll be miserable anyway.
Exxon didn’t pay the most in the industry. There used to be 3 advantages: training, job security, and pedigree. After a decade with the company, I can tell you, they are no longer a perk.
All training budgets are slashed, there are no schools and even if there were experienced people, they don’t have time to mentor, and won’t be rewarded for it.
The mantra of best in industry, partner of choice, etc. is gone. Tillerson’s disastrous decisions and Woods’ awful leadership led to decline and xom now trails competitors in most metrics.
Finally, job security is no longer a thing. Mgmt used to pat themselves in the back claiming that, unlike others, they don’t do layoffs. Evidently this is misleading. I have never before seen new hires getting the axe so quickly. Usually they were given room to grow. Now they are often ill equipped to compete and too early in the chopping block.
I honestly do not recommend this dysfunctional company to anybody. The decline is painful to watch. Reorg, rollout of behaviors, consultants, and it just keeps getting worse.
Get out now while the getting is good, ExxonMobil claims to hire only the best of the best, but now are saying their “best” isn’t good enough. ExxonMobil claims their employees are their best asset, but treat people like c-ap. You devote your life to the organization, being loyal and sacrificing much of your personal life, only to be told you’re not “good enough”. If you like having your hard earned work criticized, stay; otherwise, jump ship, ExxonMobil is nothing like the company it used to be.
Typical XOM supervisor.. It's so pathetic that many people at that experience level leave your team. Have you considered it is just because of you?
The company will continue to hire top people but at slightly lower levels. Layoffs and no hiring after 1986 caused a double hump in corporate demographics (lots of older (over 55) but few mid career (35 to 55) and lots of people (less than 28 to 35). XOM is forming another shortage of people less than 28. In 5 years, that young group is the "feedstock" for to become first line supervisors (who then become managers). The company constantly needs strong performers to replace annual 3% retirement plus 2% attrition. IF you like the business, it is a great career...but it is subject o boom and busts.
ALL new hires in my team left within 1 year. FYI
Best to do something else, not in Houston and not in oil. Regardless of election outcome in Nov, there will probably be major infrastructure spending to create jobs post-pandemic. Future opportunities are in renewables, water, and construction, not in oil and gas.
You won’t be missing out on anything. If you are good enough, go into the technology sector.
Full time offers have been frozen for a while now, at least in geoscience. New hires who go through the PDS (annual review) process are subject to a similar 8-10% cut of the "bottom" bracket that the rest of the company, but they get ranked amongst themselves, function by function. As they likely only need 7 days notice compared to the 21 days notice for the over 40 crowd, we'll likely see more reports of employees with 1-3 year's experience getting the axe.
Our business plans indicate net reduction in MPT headcounts over the next 3 years. At least in refining and chemicals, guidance surrounding hiring targets are 0 for most facilities.
Most likely there will be no full-time offer, not in US at least.
Find something else. Something that can’t be shipped offshore.
Unless you like heartless corporations that rank you like a bipolar narcissist with no real plans for the future.