Thread regarding Cisco Systems Inc. layoffs

Self-Promotion as a core business and survival skill

I've worked in Operations, CX, Marketing, and Engineering within Cisco. Each organization spends most of their time on self-promotion. The lack of substance is rather astonishing. We pay layers of people to preach Cisco, while actually not contributing any value.

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https://www.uscis.gov/report-fraud/combating-fraud-and-abuse-in-the-h-1b-visa-program

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The H1b also impacts early in career Americans. Deloitte, Accenture, and PWC might prefer hiring cheaper foreign employees on H1b as opposed to hiring a local candidate.

These Americans miss out of critical early in career experience.

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H1b program should be closed now- with 30 million unemployed, there is no reason to import foreign labor

But how many of those 30 million unemployed are from the tech sector? Most of those unemployed came from restaurants, bars, gyms, movie theaters, performance arts theaters, and other places of indoor congregation where social distancing isn't practical. H1B's should not be eligible for simple wait staff, cashiers, bar tenders, fitness trainers, or ushers. Those skills certainly exist in the U.S.

While I certainly don't agree with or support the H1B program, to say that there is no need to import foreign labor is too broad to be truthful. There are lots of menial or manual labor jobs that Americans won't work and we need those foreign workers to perform them. They're just not H1B's working high tech jobs.

I've never worked with an H1B worker in my professional career that had a skill that myself or my peers didn't have. They usually were hired to work and learn our jobs, then we'd get cut as the company outsourced our job function to India and the H1B would return to India to train a group of people to do the work and supervise them. Then after a few years of that not getting it done correctly or timely, the work would get pulled back to the US and new American workers would be hired, usually with expensive senior level people who could figure out what needed to be done, how to fix the broken mess that the processes got turned into, and then they'd be replaced with middle career workers to keep it running until it got too expensive and would be outsourced again in 5-10 yrs. Same sh–, different decade.

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Post ID: @hjb+16EnAjxV

One more major fix needed: Extensive and strict review of every H1B request to validate the are no US citizens with the skills do do the job. Companies cheat to save money by laying off citizens and immediately replacing them with H1B low paid people. The people laid off have had to train (transfer their skills?) to their replacement.

Use H1B to facilitate new college graduates, particularly advanced tech degrees, to stay in the US and move quickly to citizenship.

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Post ID: @izt+16EnAjxV

H1b program should be closed now- with 30 million unemployed, there is no reason to import foreign labor

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Post ID: @ahr+16EnAjxV
  1. Fix the anti-trust laws in America. These companies are monopolies and duopolies that no longer need to compete in the marketplace. Mediocrity is not just tolerated, but is now expected at Cisco.
  2. Fix the H1B system. Ensure H1B immigrants receive a minimum salary, and their visa should not be tied to a specific employer. A 4 year H1B visa with the freedom to switch employers.
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Post ID: @stm+16EnAjxV

Fix the H1B program so companies like Cisco can’t game the system.

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Post ID: @ybo+16EnAjxV

this reminds of my past team.. there are directors and a PM group. the PM group was hired new and not sure what they do beside build a ppt and present (that ppt was put together with high school skill set and most of the slides are cp and paste from us) we were all tagged along when we meet the customer, the PM starts the call and we talk through the slides and we do demo, PM close the call.. our directors promote these PM becoming managers and we soon got outsourced to india and all fired. the Ones got promoted in PM group are all friends of directors, both men and women, women taking all these big roles and easily get promoted from the PM group, however, Many of the technical people are gone now, soon the skillset in US dropped to such low, we have to import from india the ones that older folks traned. considering the hotel bill and airfare bill cisco is paying .. usually 2 or 3 months a time. Now we think back, what are we really saving? get rid of technical folks and retain the non technical , high school level.. PM even with some university degree.. vs hard working technical engineers who actually has a engineering degree..

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