Thread regarding Honeywell International Inc. layoffs

Honeywell supports racist rhetoric

Sandia Labs spreading critical race theory
https://www.foxnews.com/us/chris-rufo-one-man-war-race-theory

Sandia, a subsidiary of Honeywell
https://www.sandia.gov/about/

Judgements about people based on their race or religion or s-x should ALWAYS called out and stopped.

by
| 3357 views | | 8 replies (last ) | Reply
Post ID: @OP+16NrhgCl

8 replies (most recent on top)

HON PHX AERO has a good ole boy whites only unspoken policy when it come to hiring engineers or permitting job advancement. Just look at the engineering org chart. How is it that there are no Hispanics, blacks, Asians, women, or Indians in any of the top tier eng mngmt positions? They have a few here or there in the lower ranks, but these groups are much less hired and are not allowed to advance.. facts are the facts. Racism is alive and well at HON PHX, not saying the others groups not mentioned are treated well as you can read in the other posts. HR refuses to look into obvious discrimination cases which have costed co-workers their careers.

by
| | Reply
Post ID: @1dqff+16NrhgCl

Bragging? No. Its a reality that all aerospace manufacturing companies must deal with. Until/If Honeywell sells off aero, which until COVID was responsible most of the revenue of the company, you need to hire and develop engineers as dictated by the industry. Look no further than Snecma's silverscrest engine failure. Their president explicitly stated it failed because they turned over their engineering organization and never trained their young engineers. The parts fit, but the engine didn't work. They lost hundreds of millions of dollars on that program.

As for existing product lines, let's look at the real moneymaker, APUs. Its a shock to most upper management that you cannot just take an existing APU and put it into any other airplane. The fact is that most APUs will simply not work if you do that. The inlets airflow are all different, the electrical systems are all different. Its almost like you must design a new APU on paper, and then see how the existing design doesn't match up. If you mess it up, Honeywell must pay the customer millions back for failing to have a product that met requirements. (And I've seen it happen too much.) Noone with 3 years of experience can do that work in any aspect of an APU design, even on a 50yo core.

by
| | Reply
Post ID: @1qba+16NrhgCl

What part of software industrial is unclear?

I see no evidence that honeywell is interested in making engines at all.

The bread and butter of that business are designs done under the garrett name.
The newer 7000 line is a niche product at best flying on a tier two supplier.
Turbo props is even worse with honeywell selling engines that have been in service for the best part of 70yrs. Honeywell stays in this business because they can sell these old products.

Are you really bragging that honeywell has to invest 6 years into someone before getting return on that labor? Think about that in business terms.

Now...The entire company is starved for R&D and capital because the only hope of staying in the engines business is to invest roughly a BILLION dollars with little hope of ROI in the next decade.
What would you do as a business leader? Do you think it is easy asking little D for a billion dollars right now? Yeah.. send thank you cards to your GBE leaders.

And yes... software engineers are the modern equivalent of a day laborer doing piecework (SLOCS/hr) in the fields. Anyone with training can do their work anywhere in the world.
Sorry, thems the facts. So i do consider them replaceable. So do our business leaders based on their actions.

These tea leaves arent hard to read.

by
| | Reply
Post ID: @1fzg+16NrhgCl

@rup: you sound like one of those finance weenies that think you can hire anyone out of college and replace an existing engineer.

Let's take Aero engines. It takes 6 years minimum before a new hire is productive out of college because colleges do not teach anything that actually allows you to design an engine cycle or part. Why? Because there are only 3-4 companies in the US that hire engineers for it. Its a specialized field.
Compound the fact that Honeywell will not invest the money needed to switch from in house proprietary software to commercially available software means that you can not even outsource much of the work even if there is a firm offering their services.

by
| | Reply
Post ID: @1teb+16NrhgCl

Not really a "liberal" thing. Just normal cowardly corporate CYA. I would rather see companies like honeywell take a real stand by offering completely blind scholarships and blind technical interviews.

This applies to everyone, blind auditions every three years. Turning over your engineers will prevent the risk aversion that causes process creep. You will fail more often but you will also win bigger. Might lose a few planes...apparently that is already okay based on outsourcing.

If your products need long term support and the engineers dont make the cut...tell them. "We value your product knowledge but you are stuck until you get a hire score in the blind auditions".

by
| | Reply
Post ID: @rup+16NrhgCl

This thread will most likely get deleted as moderators here are liberals and fully hate white people

by
| | Reply
Post ID: @erx+16NrhgCl

Disgusting anti-White propaganda

by
| | Reply
Post ID: @nft+16NrhgCl

"cure white priveledge" trainings are just rescripted versions of other reindoctrination techniques. Use peer pressure and loudly declared "norms" to push individuals to make pledges or promises to hold some code. Techniques straight out of the cia interrogation handbook, the current version of which came from a graduate thesis on "touching millenial hearts for christ" at liberty university. In retrospect the word touching has more meaning.

These "white privledge" trainers have an "escape homosexuality" session in Iowa next week and a "purity ring ceremony" for the following saturday. All the same schtick.

by
| | Reply
Post ID: @ezb+16NrhgCl

Post a reply

: