I’ve been employed for almost 2 years. Went through the long hiring process because I felt it was a great career move but now I’m not so sure. To think I came from a competitor, thinking HON would provide solid ground. I guess at least I learned my lesson for the future - do better research before taking the leap.
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@2xno+16YrGNRW for the $100/hr it costs to keep you working, Honeywell gets a robot and three engineers from India.
PS: the robot isn’t very good at engineering but it does a bang up job washing my Porsche. That’s worth more to me than you any day of the week.
There is no robot that can do my engineering job. WTF is wrong with you?
Aero, PMT, HPS? Just curious
If you came from a competitor 2 years ago, you have some big risk.
1) your severance is cheap
2) you likely are not too entrenched or considered critical by any program managers
2) you are likely mid career. This means younger. And you help balance out an older layoff
@1qvt, mostly good thoughts but better not to combine too many topics into one post because you raise the chances of missing the boat on one or more of them.
To your comment on oldsters, age does not equal intransigence. Stop perpetuating the notion that people of a certain age can't keep up or roll with the changes. A good friend of mine got his microsoft certification at 64. I was hired by Hon late in my career years to lead a transformational program. Most of the resistance incurred with moving the program forward came from top SBG leaders, mostly GenX ages.
Additional point: not all SBGs offer pensions.
Look—you keep applying to other roles in Companies outside Honeywell. With the toxic managing styles that are currently in place in Honeywell, it's better if you stay determined to move out of that work environment.
The management lacks self-awareness which is a clear sign of 'lack of intelligence'. The Company is rotting and crumbling from within. Most likely, it will be absorbed by another Major Defense Alliance Group like Raytheon—just a matter of time!
The management (not leaders) are paranoid sociopaths who employ a troll army from other countries to spy on their employees and try to push these folks to work extra hours for free and report this as profits in order to balance a poor market demand and stronger competition. Innovation is lacking because there are marketing students who are less-evolved, less-experience and less-intelligent—occupying these management roles.
They believe, you put 2c in a box, shake it with a few scientists and bark at these scientists (some of which are not 'real' scientists but occupying the title—undeserved actually) and you will get a new product. So far, this approach has not been fruitful for these less-evolved student-marketeers.
So, you need to find companies that are more research & development oriented. Honeywell is a sweat shop and they've learned good lessons from India (learned from Britain) and China (who learned it from Britain) to run sweat shops. The cultural tide in Honeywell is against you and you need to bail plus they want the same.
So, it is a win-win for you and Honeywell.
Moreover, the company has a lot of old folks who are less likely to adapt, evolve and move forward.
If you are one of those old folks, then I feel sorry that the tide is against you and times have changed. Your best bet is to extend your life by moving out of the toxic environment and pressuring the snakes in Honeywell to pay your pension.
If you are the mid-age professional, then you are in real difficulty because your job can be done by a robot and you need super-robot skills. Your best bet is to evolve and keep an anti-dote to the snakes trying to steal your life.
If you are a young professional, watch and learn because the way in which you will be treated in the coming years is only going to get worse because the old snakes are grooming the young 40 yr old snakes to be more ruthless, poisonous and toxic. Your best bet is to develop an anti-dote and reverse this trend of snakes and hopefully get rid of them by creating a better version of robots to counter these snakes. You can do it and reclaim your future!
Never blink or hesitate. Kindness is a virtue and snakes don't have any of it. Never forget that!
If you’re really green, it may be possible to leave honey off your resume entirely. I am aware of this strategy being done for some people who have worked for a place 6 months or less. And it prevents some difficult interview explaining. Best of luck.
Over the last 10 years most of us regardless of SGB made the same mistake.we want to see the good but are blind to the bad until it is to late. Honeywell makes us slaves to our paychecks and gives us false impressions about the future. Get out as quick as you can as there is no future to shape. Take anything good you have learned and the leave the Honeywell baggage behind.
Commit 100% of effort and intensity,
while emptying your desk day by day of any / all personally meaningful items.
Submit your resume to everyone including Walmart greeter jobs, Lowes, Home Depot, Ace Hardware, Raytheon, Moog, Northrup Grumman, Viasat, UTC, etc. etc. etc.
Once you accept your next job offer, just empty your desk, gather up your stuff and just bolt without giving notice.
Let them figure it out for themselves.
Take the good and throw the negative stuff out move forward quickly
No complaint. Just undo your mistake and move on
You are quicker than most to realize. You are likely to jump a few more times before you find your place.
There was a time when you might take a job with a small company, for maybe good money, knowing the risk they might go under. Or take a job with a large company, trading some compensation for better job security. Unfortunately those days are over. Large companies are some of the worst in the race to the bottom. Best of luck.
I feel your pain, OP. I pulled up a lot of roots to take this job, only to learn that Honeywell's reputation as a good employer is last century's news. I even checked this site before applying and before accepting, and concluded that all the complaints were specific to Aero, whereas I joined a different SBG.
Not sure how much longer the company will be able to get away with resting on its laurels.
If you are in Aero.... You will find that you keep telling yourself ‘it’s ok’. Then after a decade plus of high stress service you will get the screwing of your lifetime financially and be shown the door. Speaking from personal experience.