Thread regarding ExxonMobil Corp. layoffs

There have been oil slumps before, but this one is different!

Oil fuelled the 20th century—its cars, its wars, its economy and its geopolitics. Now the world is in the midst of an energy shock that is speeding up the shift to a new order. As covid-19 struck the global economy earlier this year, demand for oil dropped by more than a fifth and prices collapsed. There have been oil slumps before, but this one is different.

As the public, governments and investors wake up to climate change, the clean-energy industry is gaining momentum. The 21st-century energy system promises to be better than the oil age—better for human health, more politically stable and less economically volatile.

However, getting there involves big risks. The transition could add to political and economic instability in petrostates and concentrate control of the green-supply chain in China. Even more dangerous, it could happen too slowly.

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Feast to Famine

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Post ID: @3drx+16Zgv4W5

They're always different. Boom to bust!

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Post ID: @3xgh+16Zgv4W5

While the age of ICE is over, it's still a long way out for transition. I forsee the smaller, less complex refineries going out of business first. Look at the ones that have shutdown permanently in California.

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Post ID: @1gma+16Zgv4W5

@1pon, the current refineries are configured a certain way, yes, but you can make most of the needed molecules from using O&G differently. You can actually build molecules from gas, all the way up to lubricants - thats how Shell is k–ling us in GPII & III, with their Qatar GTL cash cow plant (that RT refused to build, preferring to book the reserves instead, like a good upstreamer). Also the megaventures are about steam cracking crude to make chemicals - use of crude away from burning.. It won't be overnight of course, as existing cars will still have to be supplied. It will start with no growth and a gradual drawdown, followed by refinery closings as the new options are coming on stream. But make no mistake, the age of internal combustion engine is behind us.

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@1pon+16Zgv4W5
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Post ID: @1jmb+16Zgv4W5

There might be a new energy system coming but if you cut oil and gas production by 50%, you also cut everything made from the constituents of oil and gas by 50%. Ethane, propane, butane, hexane, ethylene, propylene, benzene, xylene, toluene, cyclohexane, lubes, greases, pvc, polyethylene, polypropylene. polyester, isopropanol, butyl rubber, ammonia, Cement, fertilizer, pharmaceuticals, carbon steel etc...No one has explained to me how we get these commodities if petroleum is not produced. A new energy system is emerging, but the real problem is getting enough of the constituents of oil and gas to make all the other things we want. You cannot manufacture or operate a wind turbine or solar panel without these important constituents derived from oil and gas.

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Post ID: @1pon+16Zgv4W5

EM management "sticks" to believing that oil demand will increase again and even higher and remain high and hey, everything will be back to business as normal.

EM management is blind. More and more countries no longer allow you to have a "dirty" car but force the use of electric cars (starting in 2025) - demand growth for oil and gas?

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Post ID: @1srl+16Zgv4W5
Today Chinese firms produce 72% of the world’s solar modules, 69% of its lithium-ion batteries and 45% of its wind turbines...

Nuff said

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Post ID: @1owl+16Zgv4W5

Don’t worry folks ....we have algae!

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Post ID: @1tnq+16Zgv4W5

The energy transition is not happening because the environmentalists want it to happen; it is happening because Big Money wants it to happen. There is money to be lost from the chaos from the uncontrolled repercussions of the climate change, and there is money to be made from climbing the curve of new energy technologies. And this us the biggest and most delicious irony of our age.

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Post ID: @xco+16Zgv4W5

Isn’t that why we have the algaes and that corn recycling thing waiting in the bullpen? When our oil and gas beaches throw their last pitch, we got those two flamethrowers waiting to stike!

#XOM4Eva

#TheSonsOfRockefeller

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Post ID: @ofy+16Zgv4W5

Is it the end of the oil age?


Power in the 21st century - Leaders - Sep 17th 2020
The Economist (link below)

Oil fuelled the 20th century—its cars, its wars, its economy and its geopolitics. Now the world is in the midst of an energy shock that is speeding up the shift to a new order. As covid-19 struck the global economy earlier this year, demand for oil dropped by more than a fifth and prices collapsed. Since then there has been a jittery recovery, but a return to the old world is unlikely. Fossil-fuel producers are being forced to confront their vulnerabilities. ExxonMobil has been ejected from the Dow Jones Industrial Average, having been a member since 1928. Petrostates such as Saudi Arabia need an oil price of $70-80 a barrel to balance their budgets. Today it is sc-aping along at just $40.

There have been oil slumps before, but this one is different. As the public, governments and investors wake up to climate change, the clean-energy industry is gaining momentum. Capital markets have shifted: clean-power stocks are up by 45% this year. With interest rates near zero, politicians are backing green-infrastructure plans. America’s Democratic presidential contender, Joe Biden, wants to spend $2trn decarbonising America’s economy. The European Union has earmarked 30% of its $880bn covid-19 recovery plan for climate measures, and its president, Ursula von der Leyen, used her state-of-the-union address this week to confirm that she wants the eu to cut greenhouse-gas emissions by 55% over 1990 levels in the next decade.

The 21st-century energy system promises to be better than the oil age—better for human health, more politically stable and less economically volatile. The shift involves big risks. If disorderly, it could add to political and economic instability in petrostates and concentrate control of the green-supply chain in China. Even more dangerous, it could happen too slowly.

Today fossil fuels are the ultimate source of 85% of energy. But this system is dirty. Energy accounts for two-thirds of greenhouse-gas emissions; the pollution from burning fossil fuels k–ls over 4m people a year, mostly in the emerging world’s mega-cities. Oil has also created political instability. For decades petrostates such as Venezuela and Saudi Arabia, with little incentive to develop their economies, have been mired in the politics of handouts and cronyism. In an effort to ensure secure supplies, the world’s big powers have vied to influence these states, not least in the Middle East, where America has roughly 60,000 troops. Fossil fuels cause economic volatility, too. Oil markets are buffeted by an erratic cartel. Concentration of the world’s oil reserves makes supply vulnerable to geopolitical shocks. Little wonder that the price has swung by over 30% in a sixth-month period 62 times since 1970.

A picture of the new energy system is emerging. With bold action, renewable electricity such as solar and wind power could rise from 5% of supply today to 25% in 2035, and nearly 50% by 2050. Oil and coal use will drop, although cleaner natural gas will remain central. This architecture will ultimately bring huge benefits. Most important, decarbonising energy will avoid the chaos of unchecked climate change, including devastating droughts, famine, floods and mass dislocation. Once mature, it should be more politically stable, too, because supply will be diversified, geographically and technologically. Petrostates will have to attempt to reform themselves and, as their governments start to depend on taxing their own citizens, some will become more representative. Consuming countries, which once sought energy security by meddling in the politics of the oil producers, will instead look to sensible regulation of their own power industry. The 21st-century system should also be less economically volatile. Electricity prices will be determined not by a few big actors but by competition and gradual efficiency gains.

Yet even as a better energy system emerges, the threat of a poorly managed transition looms. Two risks stand out. Autocratic China could temporarily gain clout over the global power system because of its dominance in making key components and developing new technologies. Today Chinese firms produce 72% of the world’s solar modules, 69% of its lithium-ion batteries and 45% of its wind turbines. They also control much of the refining of minerals critical to clean energy, such as cobalt and lithium. Instead of a petrostate, the People’s Republic may become an “electrostate”. In the past six months it has announced investments in electric-car infrastructure and transmission, tested a nuclear plant in Pakistan and considered stockpiling cobalt.

China’s leverage depends on how fast other economies move (see Briefing). Europe is home to giant developers of wind and solar farms—Orsted, Enel and Iberdrola are building such projects around the world. European firms are leading the race to cut their own emissions, too. America’s trajectory has been affected by the rise of shale oil and gas, which has made it the world’s largest oil producer, and by Republican resistance to decarbonisation measures. If America were to act on climate change—with, say, a carbon tax and new infrastructure—its capital markets, national energy laboratories and universities would make it a formidable green power.

The other big risk is the transition of petrostates, which account for 8% of world gdp and nearly 900m citizens. As oil demand dwindles, they will face a vicious fight for market share which will be won by the countries with the cheapest and cleanest crude. Even as they grapple with the growing urgency of economic and political reform, the public resources to pay for it may dwindle. This year Saudi Arabia’s government revenue fell by 49% in the second quarter. A perilous few decades lie ahead.

Faced with these dangers, the temptation will be to ease the adjustment, by taking the transition more slowly. However, that would bring about a different, even more destabilising set of climate-related consequences. Instead, as our special report in this issue explains, the investments being contemplated fall drastically short of what is needed to keep temperatures within 2°C of pre-industrial levels, let alone the 1.5°C required to limit the environmental, economic and political turmoil of climate change. For example, annual investment in wind and solar capacity needs to be about $750bn, triple recent levels. And if the shift towards fossil-fuel-free renewable energy accelerates, as it must, it will cause even more geopolitical turbulence. The move to a new energy order is vital, but it will be messy.

Source:
https://www.economist.com/leaders/2020/09/17/is-it-the-end-of-the-oil-age
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Post ID: @vwp+16Zgv4W5

All oil shocks have been different. It's not like all the cars on the road today are going to be suddenly replaced in the next 5 years.

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Post ID: @jpc+16Zgv4W5

i do not think people on this board would complain if the transition happens 'too slowly'

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Post ID: @ghz+16Zgv4W5

What climate change?

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