Thread regarding Honeywell International Inc. layoffs

"Schmucks." How original. Just look at the votes and kindly eff right off. Now that that is out of the way...

Top heavy indeed. Why is a site leader asking questions about things a WFS is supposed to ask? Why are senior managers now doing the jobs of WFS? And WFS (mostly) are now glorified techs. So if movement like that happens the weight clearly crushes the company from the bottom up right? No. It comes from a lack of leadership and moral courage. The eight behaviors are a dog and pony show and adding a ninth one does eff-all to better the situation.

Nittin fro one was hired and he let go everyone doing the work and only kept directors that he knew from India and the handicapped he col dnot let go. Shame Honeywell has fallen so far.

In my opinion lying, backstabbing and sabotage is the way they have worked their way to the top at Honeywell. Managers seem to RIF the most qualified and competent, so they are the ones advancing and keep the incompetent, so they can advance. It’s a really toxic environment if you are competent and qualified leader. It’s more about having PHD or MBA then being a competent leader and team builder.

We need this many VPs so they can prove themselves by sabotaging each other to get promoted - duh? How else will Honeywell find the next generation of leaders?

Those with no reports add the most value. They are able to work as IC's and use other orgs to deliver

These people are pulling in major bucks...and for what value? Mr. MM would know, right?

Snooping the org chart today, I'm noticing quite a few Dir or Sr Dir with either no direct reports, or just band 3 folks. Seems like an area to be massively reduced. It's ridiculous! These people are pulling in major bucks...and for what value?

Well the dirty rascals created a new level of "Senior Director" a couple years ago, then had the audacity to remove almost entire first level managers last year. It's like Office Space on steroids, 13 guys asking status constantly......

This calls for new role of VP for Shocking number of VPs !

It will be great to see some of these VP actually doing something rather than paying lip service and talking about positives. The whole bunch of these VP are all talk and no substance. Look at these past years if there has been any remarkable changes for the better. None. Zilch. What was there 10 years ago remains till today.
Get rid of these sods. The company will still hum along and then restart again. Make tough decisions? Not really. They just follow orders from above and flow it down to the minions to saddle the burden and sack the minions when they can do no more. The chain of command can not be so wrong as what Honeywell has made it to be

Looks at hpd worthless s.... that not even worth to fertilize anything.

Just tack on a SGA allocation of 10% to each line of business P & L and plan on working the 72 hours a week, 12 hours a day, 6 days a week with different layers of VP's demanding the same metrics from overlapping roles. On your day off document your duties for HOS and be prepared to hand off to a non US Region in China, Eastern Europe, India, and Mexico for the next RIF in November.

HIB Visa my lord Kumbaya, HIB Visa Kumbaya, sing it everybody, SGA allocation Kumbaya

Let’s all agree that “Tired Director” should stay as long as he/she wants to.

Bottom line is that honeywell lacks focus. All that management is a function of too many products and too many locations acquired over time. Yes we could thin management, but that would look just like the changes you see today...sites closing and mass layoffs. That is how a company achieves focus. Build one big campus and everyone either gathers or says goodbye.s
Is that the goal?
I think most people are just wishing for the old days when they were one location with one product. Sink or swim you do it alone.
Me too.

Google?? This is not google or have you not seen. Google has a significant advantage on workforce, ITSpace, and Data. Honeywell advantage a N95Mask....We are transitioning to a software company??? Uhhh ok, Get your VPN to work, develop a new cutting edge software, and then we may be able to Talk about maintaining a stock price that is higher. Google?? Are you kidding me?

To the top heavy benchmark commentor: you nor do your colleagues deliver results at the director or management level. You simply are there to provide a nodding yes when the president or other VP provides a used-up management line of insight. Yes, please tell us. “The future is what we make it” n provide all the wonderful results you have seen from employees. Side-step and close off questions....too easy...We all could do the same...simply pivot from the question and talk about what you want...oh I wait I want to be respectful of time so I’m going to conclude this all-hands.

Harvell got fired for bringing that up in a town hall...

Don't you know the VPs are the ones who bring in all the business to keep all you schmucks employed? Why do you think HW is doing so well?

Why the hell do we have so many VPs? What a waste of money.

Why directors have no direct report? Float between sr director and managers doing what? What a waste!!!!

RIF 50% of all these management positions. This would be true “restructuring' "downsizing," "reorganizing," "incremental synergies," organizational efficiency," "streamlining," "headcount reductions" "workforce rebalancing." "simplifying structure," "organizational improvements," "right-sizing," "simplification," and "delayering”.

Correction: 159 VPs

Let me put it this way:
113 VPs need another 46 VPs to get the job done. A total of 156 VPs just in Aerospace sector only. LOL, They must be drinking buddies!!!

What is your benchmark to say honeywell is top heavy? Google has more than 100 VPs with 39000 employees. Tell you what. Name every vice president to fire along with their org tree or product line representation. Go.

Not one single one of them will be RIFfed. Somehow, sr leaders must do our jobs for us, so we are not needed.

Two words: Top. Heavy.