Thread regarding ExxonMobil Corp. layoffs

Hate to be discouraging but I would go - before you are outsourced anyway.

Be diplomatic in your reasoning to HR, but join the other company. You have to put yourself first, and more lay-offs are coming at EM. No one will black-listt you... you will be one less person to lay-off in the next year.

Are you a diversity hire? If so, you might be ok taking a job at XOM, if you are a white male, run as fast as you can to that other job. Pronto. The company is hiring and promoting based on having a diverse workforce not based on employee merits. Very interesting that the company started sinking and lost its edge about the time they started focusing more on this diversity and took their eyes off the ball operating in a way that made them so successful

Are you interested in they type of work the other company offers and is the salary and location competitive?

TAKE THE OTHER OFFER ASAP! XOM, ALONG WITH THE OTHER O&G COMPANIES DO NOT CARE ABOUT ANYTHING EXCEPT THEIR BOTTOMLINE!

Exxon’s restructuring has significantly changed the company in a very short period of time. A lot of bad decisions were made and we are seeing the effects now. The environment is becoming hostile and backstabbing. This used to be a company that valued teamwork. There were no doubt a large number of great people working at Exxon but a large number also left the company over the last five years and a different quality of people were recruited. The worse has been over the last couple of years. The recruits were not the best of the best ...they were who is cheaper or could “charm” the recruiters enough. I am not saying this is the case for all new hires but it was prevalent enough to be noticed by a lot of employees. Recruiters were “new” entry level supervisors or some who were not even supervisors. Think very long and hard on this decision. If you can get into a good tech company then no doubt I would take their offer. No one outside of oil and gas knows who XOM is. Ask anyone and you get “oh the gas station”. The name doesn’t mean anything outside of oil.

If you are not in love with oil and gas industry, take the other offer. Oil and gas is boom bust, but good performers always survive and even thrive. Look at the people of 50 and retirees, and they all survived 6 boom and bust over last 40 years. If you choose oil and gas and you are willing to dedicate the effort to be a top half performer, the career is highly rewarding. Statistically, nearly 40% of our hires become executives earning over 400k per year. Hiring now is good because there will not be many new hires in the next 2 or 3 years, eventually the company needs to hire again and you will be well placed with 3 to 5 years experience.
If you decide to take the other offer, call HR and explain. Be Honest.

run away!!! take the other offer. they will probably rescind the day you arrive anyhow...

You will not be blacklisted from the company. I have worked for them a long time and I have seen people who left to join competitor companies be rehired a couple years later. If they want you, they will make another offer. Commodity industries will always be volatile.

Don’t take Xom offer unless you want to feel the uncertainties every day

That's a no brainer. Take the other company's offer, not XOM. You will not like XOM if you're not super competitive nor lick a–. You will age so fast with XOM as you may want to outsmart your co-worker in every way. You will throw people under the bus to be able to get on top. It's such as negative workplace you don't want to be in.

Most other large corporations discontinued 401k match also. Everyone knows that statement is full of sh–.

Let them know that with no 401k match their offer is no longer competitive with others you have received. Make sure you end the message with “I wish you well in your continued candidate search.”

Employers does not need to "keep their word on offers". For at will areas, they can rescind at any time.

They have to keep their word on offers that were already made but keep in mind new hires are included in ranking for for the first time. They are trying to reduce headcount so ranking has become extremely competitive and for a lot of employees it really seems based on how much your supervisor or manager likes you. Even under the old ranking system this was the case. New hires do not get PIP like employees with years of service. You will not get advanced notice but almost immediately terminated. You have to ask yourself if it’s worth starting out in such a high stress environment and the popularity contest. Years ago I would have said yes but a lot of the perks to working with XOM are gone.

Screw Exxon, they did not care when they layoff me with a very short notice. So they would not care if you turned down their job offer. You are nothing special to them; you're just a number.

If you have an offer from a company that has stayed resilient I would recommend to take it. I worked with a lot of great people at Exxon and the turnover and number of retirements in the last three years or so seems to have changed the company dynamic. Morale has been low for a couple of years company wide. This was long before the pandemic. It can be a be quite stressful environment and even more so with the industry downturns. Do something that will make you happy.

EM doesn't care about anyone's feelings. They will layoff people with new borns, spouses with cancer, brand new mortgages. They keep their plans close to the chest and they execute with implacable gusto.
They won't work with you, they won't accommodate your circumstances, and -quite honestly- they might already be planning on either residing offers or at least hopping people don't join.
You'd be joining a sinking ship, with horrible morale, and a terrible reputation.
Your resume won't be enhanced by a year+ witnessing this drama unfold.

Anyone that had an alternative has or is leaving. This last blow to trust is the beginning of the unraveling. People lost confidence in management a while ago and now they are losing trust in the enterprise. You won't regret rejecting EM.

As someone who left XOM for another industry (a while back), don't go to EM for the name. Outside of O&G it carries zero weight. Just my two cents.

Do what is best for you. If I were in your shoes, I would take the other offer, with regrets to Exxonmobil.

In the past I would have encouraged you to give XOM a chance to see if you could make a career here. However, in recent years, our middle and senior management have been taken over by incompetent and nepotistic mo–ns who do not understand basic fundamentals on how to manage projects and the cyclical nature of the business. If you truly want to do a good job here, it all depends on the manager or supervisor you report to. He or she probably got to that position by playing politics and may not value anything you have to offer. Given that the screw-ups are catching up with our leaders in the exposing light of the pandemic and wall street scrutiny, there is much pain ahead and typically it is the employees and not the responsible managers who suffer the most. If the other job has more potential and is in an area you enjoy, do consider it seriously. A lost lease deposit is far easier to lose than a year or two in a dead end job and company.

Take the other offer. ExxonMobil is not legally obligated to honor your existing offer, and I have several friends and colleagues in the energy industry who recently had offers rescinded (one even had it done mid-way through her relocation, and has to pay back the relocation money that was already spent). It's horrible. With the way things are going financially for ExxonMobil, I'd be shocked if they didn't start rescinding offers soon.

Take the other offer. Don't look back

Oil and gas industry is not for the faint of heart. Nor is it for those who need safety or certainty. Oil and gas at its core is for risk takers, always has been, always will be.

If you want the safety net, go be a teacher, their customer base has all but dried up, yet are still gainfully employed. That or another government job. Job for life. Nice and steady with great benefits.

Take the other offer. The current management is running the company into the ground. Long term employees lack confidence in top management, which says a lot about the morale at the company. Future growth opportunities within the company will also be limited with projected cost cutting. I'd run not walk away.

Leave and don’t look back. We got notice and was blindsided . We have no retirement or pension. We was one year short of it. To keep paying out money they loosing from this pandemic they just cutting everyone. And the pip was not detainsble to get according to other employees talking. They don’t treat there employees with no care at all.

What did you decide.?

People renege on offers all the time. I know this because I have been actively involved in hiring for a decade. Just say something like “I very much appreciate this offer. My personal circumstance has changed, and I can no longer join the company.”

Walk. Don’t look back.

I find it impressive thar Exxon did not cancel the offer in the current environment. It speaks to their high standards. If you are willing to work hard to solve complex problems, Exxon is a great place to be. Exxon also offers excellent benefits, even after the 401k match was suspended. Were else do you still get a traditional pension plan and top notch medical coverage?

Always do what is best for you and your long term goals. If you really want to work at Exxon in the future keep the Exxon job, but if you see yourself doing something more like the other offer you have then do that! The company will always do what is best for the company.... And that is almost everywhere you can work. Why do you think the 401k was cut but the divided stayed? Also, other companies are cutting salary and benefits... I don't say that to scare you, but to inform you that you should always do what's best for you. Exxon might recind the offer or lay you off right before starting or so might the other offer you have. (Or it might be a 30 year career) Just do what is best for you

Run for any job other than EM. don’t worry, there is no consequence at these times of renegading. EM doesn’t care if you join or not

I wonder if they won’t cancel your offfer before you start ...they only gave some employees a week’s notice. Run to the other job/company! This is not the company it used to be.

Up to you but keep in mind that a few months ago hiring was completely frozen, and soon after the company started letting people go, and just now they have suspended 401k matching.

ExxonMobil's not going to get you out of an apartment lease if they let you go.

I find it surprising that ExxonMobil is still honoring offers that it extended such as yours when they are clearly trying to reduce headcount.

If the other offer is attractive (salary is acceptable to you, you see yourself doing well there, etc), I would probably go for that one.

I don't see your decision to go back on the offer from ExxonMobil as out of line. The benefits and overall state of the company is probably entirely different now than when you accepted the offer. Nevertheless the protocol is probably to communicate that you will never be hired again. ExxonMobil probably would very much like to rescind the offer made to you, but for some reason they feel like they can't. Again, that surprises me.

Apparently a lot of ExxonMobil new hires are getting let go.

Did you qualify for relocation and already receive the money? My understanding is that you cannot leave unless you pay back every penny. I was a new hire, they made me sign an agreement that stated that if I left (or was fired) before my first year, I had to pay the relocation. Worked 1.5 years and was laid off so I didn’t have to pay them anything thankfully!

If that’s not your case, rescind the offer. Not sure if the normal rules apply anymore or if they will care at all, but you might want to take this into consideration. You’re only giving them a few weeks notice, also remember that you formally signed a document accepting the job offer. They probably already started the HR onboarding process so that’s time and money (billable hours) spent. They will most likely say that you will not be considered for future opportunities and your ties to the company are severed completely. If you turn down this offer, you leave for good. Given the current environment, I would take the other job offer!!

Going to work at Exxon used to be very attractive. Seems its no longer a growth industry, and at this time they are sacrificing everything in the name of the almighty dividend (short sighted IMO). Nothing but cuts cuts cuts in the next 1-6 months.

Go where you want and feel best about but know it is harder to get into EM later in your career. They hire most people out of university.

Do what’s right for you. They definitely won’t help you with you lease. I assume you’re talking about Houston when you say you’d be stuck in a place you don’t want to live. I assume you’re young and just starting out in your career. Why take a job in a city you don’t like and may end up living there for decades? I don’t believe you’ll be barred from future employment with them. Just write a professional letter declining the offer. Good luck.

You can’t work for two companies at once. If the other job offer is what you want to do I would run to it. You owe EM nothing and more than likely as long as you give them a long notice time they won’t care and probably will be relieved as that’s maybe one less person they need to look at letting go next round.