Thread regarding Cisco Systems Inc. layoffs

I got email for eligibile for reduce pay reduce sh–

• . F— it . I'll go for layoffs honestly.

Thanks

The goal is to get WFH admin types to work 4 not 3 days a week

As far as I know, Microsoft in Japan indeed implemented 4 days work schedule, but you know what, 100% salary. Thank you, clever persons here.

"It's a company approved experiment, which btw, has been asked about as an alternative by lots of employees for the last 15 years.".

Thanks for the answer. Nice to see someone can read and answer a simple question without a stupid comment.

Working a lot of hours does not equal productivity (valuable output). Presumably you are compensated for your work. If you can get more or the same amount of work done in less time than someone else who is slow, then you should be able to work fewer hours for the same pay. Basecamp was innovative on this front: https://www.cnbc.com/2017/08/03/the-ceo-of-basecamp-only-allows-employees-to-put-in-a-32-hour-workweek.html. Hire good people, give them autonomy, expect them to deliver, reduce overhead and compensate well = recipe for innovation. Americans are wedded to the 40+ hour workweek and organizational hierarchies even though both are irrelevant to tomorrow’s economy. A Microsoft study confirmed that 40 hour work week doesn’t result in greater productivity.

It's a company approved experiment, which btw, has been asked about as an alternative by lots of employees for the last 15 years. You think those annual surveys don't get read? This is implemented between you and your manager, not Chuck and the ELT. It might not be feasible for a person, but it might be.

Throwing out conspiracy theories instead of having an actual conversation with your manager is eye rolling.

If you honestly think that your manager is scheming to set you up for failure by agreeing to this pretty unusual opportunity to work 80% is pretty hilarious.

What does "Leadership Support" mean then for the Reduced Work Week?

Seems if you took this you would be considered part-time. No large projects would be assigned to you. You would probably be assigned smaller tasks and assist others to hand off your work load until no longer needed. Seems almost a semi-retired status. It might work in a shift call center environment.

If you can actually only work 4 normal days and get your "work" done, it's a good sign that you aren't needed. I know people who work 60 hours a week and often on weekends. Granted, the dummies in leadership will probably whack those people too.

would proably work out to 4\10s still working 7 days a week. heard mgr has to approve. not sure whoo would take 20% cut. most people are strapped

And if half my team takes this, who's doing the extra work? Me? F that. They're either expecting you to do a weeks work for 80% or your teammates are getting screwed and picking up the slack

Who comes up with this stuff? Oh, I need to remember to work only at 80% capacity.

George Orwell would be proud.

Doubleplusgood.

I hate to have to agree with @ofe, but sadly seems true.

The amount of work output doesn’t change so it’s just a way to pay people less for the same amount of work. 20% “time off” isn’t enough to take care of homeschooling etc so wouldn’t make much of a difference to families. All of this is just a PR stunt to appear to care.

Reduced work week? Really? I don’t remember clocking in and out. It’s a way of paying people 80% and still getting the same work. Plus, they don’t have to actually lay you off saving more costs. Upside for employees is you can actually say you’re at the beach on Friday rather than pretending your webcam is broken as you do a conf call in the car.

I believe it is a better way for the company to project expenses and plan their budget since it would be for a known duration.