A colleague just shared the content of an email from the ISC Eng VP (JH). The video link attached shows a goat locking horns with a bull and pretty much getting owned. The caption says "this is confidence" at the beginning. It goes on to do say "whatever the problem u have"... "don't show ur back and face it with determination". The bull gets bored of tossing the goat around like a rag doll and finally walks away. The caption then says "finally victory is yours". Nope. No single goat can beat a bull, not matter how tenacious. There probably would have been more goats had the majority of them not been laid off. You beat a bull with a large team of goats that can attack it from every angle with complementary skill sets and one leader. Not one little goat on the wall of the Alamo being whipped by 100 managers. Another reminder of the clueless fools running the place. There is no more blood to be rendered from the stone.
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Gosh! I replayed the TH and saw that the entire ame group has completely turned over. Except for bob the seal ever ready to get treats, its a complete make over. No wonder the new name.
The team is so disgusted with this little charade that Jon, if you are reading this, check your leadership team if they are just butt licking your ideas or plainly putting up a show for the general audience.
Has someone realized that the recent organization looks f&@ked up and yet the top brass keeps explaining whats its all about but it only makes it more confusing and .... strangely suspicious. Strangely suspicious that the ISC Engineering team has increased in numbers more than they had before the last RIF like it is all ready for another big trim. The cto engineering team must be glad that they won’t be the ones having to deliver the news of the next cut while the id–t head honcho just walked right into it.
There should only really be 1 engineering team in aero and not 2. Its engineering, not military.
Thats the familiar Jon right there. Every ready to please his superiors without any idea how to do it. If you plan out an activity, you better be sure you know how to get there or know that your directors are capable of getting there. Not Jon. He doesn't have a clue of what he wants and how we wants to run this organisation while his directors are acting out as evangelists preaching on Sunday mass. Only hopes and prayers left here in this org.
There are still a few stooges on the hamster wheel that respond to such "inspirational" drivel. Not many, but still some.
@ Tiredofthevictimmentality
As much as your defense of him is true, circumstances that you have worked for him and just by judging from the negativity that is shown of him in many commentaries here, he might be to your view, a good manager but definitely not a VP material. The things that you have mentioned are looked upon as trivial compared to the colossal mess he has and is about to make standing as a VP position.
I, too, had worked with him directly and indirectly on several occassions in his past roles and found him to be a good all-round individual but that was about as far as I look at it. As a VP, not very promising or motivating to his big workforce. You can clearly see that from his department results. In the end, results is what counts in Honeywell and if he doesn't stop all the charades and start looking at his results, he will be booted out eventually. And, hopefully, some other VP that doesn't dabble with office politics will reign.
Yeah sure..just like the acknowledgement of a bolt he sent around with a unicorn head and mermaid tail...displaying his vision of recognition that adds no measurable financial or job security situation for the hard working engineer. Then the brilliance of replacing AME with PSE...literally PSE's only role was to package credit for what AME did was a colossal mistake..good luck converting credit mongers into actual factory support that translates into results.
https://youtu.be/H_LRtTJkOxo
I think JH made his point. The goat never gave up.
I feel strongly that I need to write a rebuttal in JH defense. I have worked indirectly and directly for JH and yes, he is very driven and demanding but demands more of himself than anyone else. I have personally witnessed time and again, how many times he has defended the individuals in his organization and I can honestly say he does everything he can to make sure the work he expects is rewarding and the people assigned have the resources and ability to succeed.
Many examples that show he cares as much about the individual as he does about the company include;
personally showing new grads that relocated for work how to be safe in a roadside emergency,
providing touch screen monitors, extra monitors, huge monitors without any hurdles,
taking the time to talk with everyone in his team and at every level as individuals and not just employees,
inspiring everyone to approach him at any time with concerns or ideas,
setting clear goals with clear expectations for who does what by when (and holding them accountable),
etc.
As a Honeywell employee and a shareholder, I wish more leaders were like him and anyone that does not value the hard work and the high standards as much as he expects would stop complaining and demotivating others, but would simply leave.
Sadly, my interpretation is that he's mocking everyone who talks about fighting back and taking a run at the big machine...you will be crushed like a bug.
ISC Engineering = Showboat. Who came up with that name anyway? Whats wrong with keeping the name AME?
Yawn...whats the message again? That we can overcome any obstacles no matter the size. He's acting we are full staff again to run half baked projects.
The longer he is at the top, the less he is seen as a value to his owm sbe to its people and the business.
Was there another damned inspiritational video put up yet again. Where the $%&@# does he have the time for all these crock anyway. If a job of a VP is just to put up messages then I'll be darned that it definitely gets easier sitting at the top.
JH will remain clueless with his bunch of misfits figuring out what to do next. He is tied up with building inspirational messages to the point that it no longer makes any sense. Continue building messages and drawing pride while the sites suffer with an ever increasing number of issues which remains unresolved. Oh wait, he can still shift the blame to his previous engineering function and compradre, Holzer.
You've missed the point entirely. There is no future to adapt to for Aero engineering because there is nobody left to do the work and no customer orders in commercial are coming in. Try having your organization chopped by more than 2/3 and then be scattered to the wind and tell me how happy you would be about it. AME was completely dismantled and the remaining personnel are now orphans in JH's organization. JH and the managers under him have no idea what AME personnel did before it was gutted and still don't know. JH's video was arrogance and hubris in a bumbling failure of an attempt to be a cheerleader. It shows just how far out of touch he is with his organization. That's not a complaint. It's reality.
What a bunch of disgruntled engineers that cannot adapt to the new future of honeywell engineering. Its only been 6 months since JH has led this new team. It might appear not to everyones liking but at least there is still one. Quit complaining over some video however, irrelevant it may appear to be.
You're just as clueless and arrogant as JH is.
JH is going to turn his org into a publicity spewing channel just like when he was under the CTO/ engineering group raising countless programs which has no impact to results will be the order of the day. Look at how many new programs or products that Honeywell has released while the engineering group still announces achievements leaving many bewildered to what benefits they have actually brought over. This is the new engineering we live in where public acknowledgements is more important than technical knowledge. Just like the proverb, 'kicking the empty can makes the most noise'.
JH is just trying to earn his keeps like everyone else. In this hostile environment he will have to kick it up a notch or he will be booted out. Everyone up the ladder is increasingly ruthless by each step of the way.
@2ffm.... I'm guessing you've never been in a JH ran organization or are one of those highly paid cheerleader for his "inspirational" efforts. This isn't a reaction to one video. It's a reaction to the Aero culture that not so long ago told managers that if they couldn't inspire American engineers to work an average of 6 hours unpaid OT, they weren't good managers. At the same time to keep Canadian engineers to no more than 1.8 hours because they get comp'd for OT with pay or time off.
Strong reactions from just a video. Stop whinning and be grateful you have a job to watch those videos.
I voluntered to be let go from the previous excercise and am pretty glad that I did. Too much nonesense was going on and could smell the end of AME. The aero engineering group never saw the ame as an engineering group but rather as technicians with college diplomas. JH had the same impression before and probably after he gets into the ugly side and realistic of business of ISC. He has now, more people in his team before he started off. When the next wave of cuts comes along, more of the old guards from ame will be let go so that his team will be cleansed away of the original organization that is ame. To all my dear ame brothers and sisters, my prayers are with all of you.
Unprofessional at best.
No relation I see with what goats represent in the video. Probably, lemmings would be a better relatable creature of the team.
Sat to a replay of the Q3 ISC Engineering Town hall. Appears that he has a host of activities with people’s name on it. These people will probably get other people to do it and the chain goes all the way down to the grunt who is filled with so much work from people that had been let go.
Wake up, hobo! With so little of whats left, how can you find the audacity to demand more. Any work that you roll out now is going to be half baked anyway. Stick to whats important, dufus.
@abo+ he still does!
@pht+With all those kiss a– directors surrounding him, he is oblivious to whats happening and has been for years. The guy is a mess. Just look at his unkept hair. Does he still come in late for his own meetings? Notorious for doing that before he took on this job. Invitees would deliberately call in late knowing full well he would do the same.
JH leading such a big team of engineers is about as shocking as the pope embracing atheism. No one can recall if he had any achievements in his previous role other than long drawn out speeches. He is known for being a man with vision but can’t find the path even with the help of navigation.
What was the message in the video again? It sounds like he wanted to portray how the merger between PSE and AME groups were and how AME got owned and was intended to be k–led off by the influx of engineers from the PSE and NPI groups but couldn’t. The m—acre of the AME team sure is mighty real in this case. ISC Engineering just made a mess with having organisation groups that don’t know who is who any longer.
To top it all off, this is the very same leader that has claimed to want to cut reportings, meetings and others. The opposite is true. He should really check what his people are really doing and hear it from his kiss a– directors.
Brilliant analgy
Leadership by meme.
I bet ATT could create a machine learning algorithm that spits out the appropriate gify for any situation.
Definitely need to submit the VPBOT idea to the Tools team. JH should be all in ... he loved that automation team.
You nailed it. That's the person.
Hob.....? Nah